06-01-2004, 07:25 AM
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plates can pinch/cut fingers badly. Plates can kink, jam up, bend out of place/articulation. Plates under armpits can cause chaffing and nerve problems. Can be difficult to compact for transportation (modern problem). Many gaps and openings/exposed areas – questionable protection historically. Difficult to work/labor while wearing. Does not permit deep breathing very well. Straps and fittings can sometimes be easy to break/damage/bend out of place/articulation. Balteus tends to droop or fall down.<hr><br>
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I don't agree so much, I think that a seg can be both: as you tell, or not at all. I've used three different segs so far, made by different artisans, and I found two of them really comfortable, even for many hours duty marching, working and combat (all day long for two days for example). it depends a lot from how the seg is made: the differences can be very important.<br>
What I like to say is that a seg, if well "tailored" with smoothed plates, and care of details is really comfortable despite of its weight or design can make think the contrary (and we cannot forget it's a cuirass!). If the modern segs cause any problems it's just because of its wrong making, not right for the soldier's sizes. Since I believe that any real ancient seg was "precious", expensive and so fundamental for the soldiers' life, I guess it was also carefully "tailored" and so more comfortable than the modern counterparts, often not well tailored on the guy who will wear it.<br>
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Moreover, a well made seg becomes very small when folded, (and you can put your helmet in the void of it), after all, not so bigger than a long sleeves hamata.<br>
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I also think that the belly problem generally did'nt exist in the real roman Army due to the campaign heavy duty or training in peacetime, and to have to buy a new segmentata because you got a fresh new belly in the winter off-duty time could be a good deterrent to avoid the "otium". So, stay fit<br>
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Vale,<br>
Titus<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plates can pinch/cut fingers badly. Plates can kink, jam up, bend out of place/articulation. Plates under armpits can cause chaffing and nerve problems. Can be difficult to compact for transportation (modern problem). Many gaps and openings/exposed areas – questionable protection historically. Difficult to work/labor while wearing. Does not permit deep breathing very well. Straps and fittings can sometimes be easy to break/damage/bend out of place/articulation. Balteus tends to droop or fall down.<hr><br>
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I don't agree so much, I think that a seg can be both: as you tell, or not at all. I've used three different segs so far, made by different artisans, and I found two of them really comfortable, even for many hours duty marching, working and combat (all day long for two days for example). it depends a lot from how the seg is made: the differences can be very important.<br>
What I like to say is that a seg, if well "tailored" with smoothed plates, and care of details is really comfortable despite of its weight or design can make think the contrary (and we cannot forget it's a cuirass!). If the modern segs cause any problems it's just because of its wrong making, not right for the soldier's sizes. Since I believe that any real ancient seg was "precious", expensive and so fundamental for the soldiers' life, I guess it was also carefully "tailored" and so more comfortable than the modern counterparts, often not well tailored on the guy who will wear it.<br>
<br>
Moreover, a well made seg becomes very small when folded, (and you can put your helmet in the void of it), after all, not so bigger than a long sleeves hamata.<br>
<br>
I also think that the belly problem generally did'nt exist in the real roman Army due to the campaign heavy duty or training in peacetime, and to have to buy a new segmentata because you got a fresh new belly in the winter off-duty time could be a good deterrent to avoid the "otium". So, stay fit<br>
<br>
Vale,<br>
Titus<br>
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TITVS/Daniele Sabatini
... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
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... Tu modo nascenti puero, quo ferrea primum
desinet ac toto surget Gens Aurea mundo,
casta faue Lucina; tuus iam regnat Apollo ...
Vergilius, Bucolicae, ecloga IV, 4-10
