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Subarmalis designs?
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Yes, John, a jack of plates but, to take shape...

You know, as me, that Romans, at least of the middle of the Republic until the second century AD, made everything to improve not only their offensive armament, but and maybe especially in that whole period, their defensive armament. The best system which may have been the " lorica plumata ", a hamata with small feather-like scales attached to the rings and also the lorica which we call "segmentata".
I think possible that the lorica we are talking about correspond to the lorica recontructed by the archeologists (http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/arcna...defens.htm) on the archeological site of Colletières (1008/1010 AD) where were only found little plates having constituted an armor. No rings or pieces of coat of mail.

On the Constantin'Arc, we see the three principal soldiers fully equipped hearing their Emperor. One wear a squamata, thee second a "segmentata".
That's why I believe that the third wears also a lorica, perhaps a borrowing, perhaps a short-lived trial. (For the Middle Ages, but not only, the Thordeman's book "Armour From the Battle of Wisby, 1361" is packed with extensive and interesting pieces of information.

And the sixth representation de Graham reinforces my old hypothesis. If he might give us more informations on this monument... Thanks in advance.

Sorry for my poor english Smile
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Subarmalis designs? - by Graham Sumner - 02-01-2012, 05:20 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-01-2012, 05:30 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Graham Sumner - 02-01-2012, 05:33 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-01-2012, 05:36 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by M. Demetrius - 02-01-2012, 11:55 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Dan Howard - 02-01-2012, 01:07 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by mcbishop - 02-01-2012, 02:13 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Octavianus - 02-01-2012, 02:50 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by richard robinson - 02-01-2012, 03:02 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Nathan Ross - 02-01-2012, 03:56 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Agrimensor - 02-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Graham Sumner - 02-01-2012, 10:33 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by richard robinson - 02-02-2012, 04:34 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by MD - 02-02-2012, 04:48 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by ValentinianVictrix - 02-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Sulpicius Florus - 02-02-2012, 09:13 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Sulpicius Florus - 02-03-2012, 01:37 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-03-2012, 01:58 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-03-2012, 01:59 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Fruitbat - 02-03-2012, 02:58 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by John Conyard - 02-03-2012, 03:42 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-09-2012, 04:15 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Marc - 02-09-2012, 07:01 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by john m roberts - 02-09-2012, 10:23 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Marc - 02-11-2012, 06:55 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 02-13-2012, 01:03 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by M. Demetrius - 02-13-2012, 01:12 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-13-2012, 01:52 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 02-18-2012, 12:28 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Pavel Kalinov - 02-19-2012, 05:39 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-19-2012, 06:43 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by M. Demetrius - 02-19-2012, 09:21 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Pavel Kalinov - 02-19-2012, 02:01 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Jvrjenivs - 02-19-2012, 03:14 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-19-2012, 06:20 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-20-2012, 01:40 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Pavel Kalinov - 02-20-2012, 01:52 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-20-2012, 02:46 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-20-2012, 06:18 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Robert Vermaat - 02-21-2012, 06:37 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Jay - 02-27-2012, 01:26 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Magnus - 02-27-2012, 02:15 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Dan Howard - 02-28-2012, 03:26 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 02-28-2012, 03:35 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by mcbishop - 02-28-2012, 04:11 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by mcbishop - 02-28-2012, 04:17 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by M. CVRIVS ALEXANDER - 02-28-2012, 05:07 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Dan Howard - 02-28-2012, 01:39 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Sean Manning - 02-28-2012, 09:09 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Robert Vermaat - 02-28-2012, 10:31 PM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Jay - 03-01-2012, 04:13 AM
Re: Subarmalis designs? - by Dan Howard - 03-05-2012, 08:42 AM

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