08-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Quote:A thought experiment: What if Alaric had succeeded in taking North africa 410-411 i.e. what if his fleet wasn't wrecked by storms? (a very lucky break for the Romans!) When would the western Empire have fallen if Africa was already gone by 411?Interesting. Alaric died of course, but had he lived, perhaps the Goths would have made in an impact there.
However:
It would have meant that Gaul was still fully Roman.
It would have meant that Spain was beset by Alans, Vandals and Sueves.
Very interesting. Maybe a fully Roman Gaul would have made it possible to free Spain after some time, and prevent the Vandals from going to Africa. I don't know how a Gothic Africa would have been different from a Vandal Africa (alliances, raiding, prosecution of catholics) and if the Romans would have been in better shape to retake it sooner.
No idea how this would have influenced the Roman struggle for Italy. The strulle between Gaul and Italy for power might have been very different. Maybe even Britain would have been rejoining the emoire, who knows...
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)