The Dacians: Rome\'s Greatest Enemy?

[Frostwulf]

Dahae is the Dacians, the old Dahae didnt existed anymore back then, they vanished soon after Alex the Great conquered Persia. I think is just a misunderstanding there

There certainly is a misunderstanding, and that is from you:

let the Elbe and the unconquered
mouth of the Rhine send out swarms of fair-haired
Suebians from the uttermost North ; make us foes
to every nation — but let civil war pass from us I
Let the Dacians attack us on one side, the Getae on
the other; let one of the rivals^ confront the
Spaniards, and the other ^

Albis et indomitum Rheni caput ; omnibus hostes
Reddite nos populis : civile avertite bellum.
Hinc Dacus, premat inde Getes ; occurrat Hiberis
Alter^ ad Eoas hie vertat signa pharetras ;

Dahae is Royal Scythians, Dacus is Dacians! If you look into Lucans writings you will see he puts Dacus for Dacians, not Dahae.

I read the translation from couple Romanian sources, and I do understand a little Latin (mostly due to Romanian being a Latin based language and one year i did years ago in school).

While I don't doubt you on your year of Latin, I don't believe you on the translation Why do I say this:

Shall Scythian tribes desert their distant north, And Getae haste to view the fall of Rome, And I look idly on? As some fond sire, Reft of his sons, compelled by grief, himself Marshals the long procession to the tomb, Thrusts his own hand within the funeral flames, Soothing his heart, and, as the lofty pyre Rises on high, applies the kindled torch: Nought, Rome, shall tear thee from me, till I hold Thy form in death embraced; and Freedom's name, Shade though it be, I'll follow to the grave. Yea! let the cruel gods exact in full Rome's expiation: of no drop of blood The war be robbed. I would that, to the gods Of heaven and hell devoted, this my life Might satisfy their vengeance.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/...can_ii.htm

Shall unknown nations, touched by western strife,
And monarchs born beneath another clime
Brave the dividing seas to join the war?
Shall Scythian tribes desert their distant north,
And Getae haste to view the fall of Rome,
And I look idly on? As some fond sire,
Reft of his sons, compelled by grief, himself
Marshals the long procession to the tomb,

http://omacl.org/Pharsalia/book2.html

Shall unknown nations, touched by western strife,
' And monarchs born beneath another clime
' Brave the dividing seas to join the war?
' Shall Scythian tribes desert their distant north,
' And Getae haste to view the fall of Rome,
'And I look idly on? As some fond sire,
' Reft of his sons, compelled by grief, himself
' Marshals the long procession to the tomb,

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text...card%3D234

if kings who reign in another
clime beyond the seas, join the madness of Italy
and the standards of Rome, shall I alone dwell in
peace? Heaven keep far from me this madness,
that the fall of Rome, which will stir by her disaster
the Dahae and the Getae, should leave me in-
different!

http://archive.org/stream/lucancivilwarb...t_djvu.txt

The above is a slight variant but nevertheless still means the same thing. There is not one thing about "<< Oh, heavenly gods, protect me if by some disater the Dacians and the Getae will move (against us) and Rome will fall>>"
You can check any website, any book or any other source and you will see the same thing;"And Getae haste to view the fall of Rome".

I read the translation from couple Romanian sources, and I do understand a little Latin (mostly due to Romanian being a Latin based language and one year i did years ago in school). So allow me to trust more the translation I present

So either your Romanian "sources" are incompetent(very unlikely)or you misread the sources(most likely). You getting to the point where I feel like I'm explaining Goffart or worse yet the Theophany to you, and its for this reason I will withdraw from this debate.