03-13-2013, 01:48 PM
Hahaha, good God.
Look, I understand you are a big fan of Sarmatians (maybe Scythians too) and you are upset about some things I write. And now you try to make some ramapge and "clear the fields" so no one to shadow them.
But some stuffs you said are simply ridiculous, no offence.
At least I post some sources or make logical assumptions and not talk just from my wishfull thinking imagination
About Orlat plaques, their dating is uncertain, the consensus seeming to be somewhere in 1-st century AD however.
They arent even a "draco" but a simple windsock.
And "draco" like symbolism is present in Dacia area since bronze age at least, if you look at some zoomorphic bracelets that was found here, with a serpentiphorm body ended with various animal heads
Like these (first is dated in bronze age, second somewhere around IV century BC)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...brasov.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...11_-_2.jpg
The heads in this case are some horse heads, but there are others with spirals and horned heads and such. I posted this just to see the connection with horses too, since the bronze age (so before the individualization of other indo-european populations)
Those are bracelets, but if a "draco" standard was made of wood and some fabric and leather it probably didnt survived.
Fact is that Romans always associated in their images the Draco with the Dacians
Look, I understand you are a big fan of Sarmatians (maybe Scythians too) and you are upset about some things I write. And now you try to make some ramapge and "clear the fields" so no one to shadow them.
But some stuffs you said are simply ridiculous, no offence.
At least I post some sources or make logical assumptions and not talk just from my wishfull thinking imagination
About Orlat plaques, their dating is uncertain, the consensus seeming to be somewhere in 1-st century AD however.
They arent even a "draco" but a simple windsock.
And "draco" like symbolism is present in Dacia area since bronze age at least, if you look at some zoomorphic bracelets that was found here, with a serpentiphorm body ended with various animal heads
Like these (first is dated in bronze age, second somewhere around IV century BC)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...brasov.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...11_-_2.jpg
The heads in this case are some horse heads, but there are others with spirals and horned heads and such. I posted this just to see the connection with horses too, since the bronze age (so before the individualization of other indo-european populations)
Those are bracelets, but if a "draco" standard was made of wood and some fabric and leather it probably didnt survived.
Fact is that Romans always associated in their images the Draco with the Dacians
Razvan A.