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Centurion Rank
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To me, messing around with the 'Centurions Mess' would be analogous today with trying to re-organise the WO's & Sgts Mess! Dangerous stuff. :wink:

For that reason, and with, afaik no particular sources that really suggest otherwise (that I have seen so far, but it's not an area I've particularly studied) I would be more inclined to suggest that there were 60 centurions in a 'full' legion at all times.

In the Polybian construct they seem to be clear - each segment/maniple (including the Triarii) has its pair of centurions and their ranks are most likely synonymous with the ranks quoted 300+years later in the Imperial construct; with the change from triarii to pilus happening when the cohort structure was permanently established.

When the legion was supplemented in the post-Augustan period and the first cohort enlarged, however, I strongly suspect this is why the 10-century construct of the First Cohort became commanded by the slightly different ranks seen in the primi ordines (ordo itself referring to the century-pairing). At this point the '60th Centurion' became the Praefectus Castrorum.

This is by far the simplest interpretation and is a change that slightly awards the senior centurions of a legion, whilst not messing around with the careers of the majority and promises that the most senior even has a new 'higher' step possible; let alone providing an experienced military specialist of Equestrian status to advise the legion's commander.

It's the work of a clever and experienced military administrator - and I think both Augustus or Tiberius could fit that bill.
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Centurion Rank - by Bryan - 01-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Vindex - 01-28-2012, 12:46 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-28-2012, 05:35 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Vindex - 01-28-2012, 04:30 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Domitia - 01-28-2012, 05:04 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-28-2012, 07:27 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 01-28-2012, 08:56 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-28-2012, 11:17 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Vindex - 01-28-2012, 11:31 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-28-2012, 11:53 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Mark Hygate - 01-28-2012, 11:53 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Bryan - 01-29-2012, 12:15 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 01-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-29-2012, 12:54 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Macedon - 01-29-2012, 01:18 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Vindex - 01-29-2012, 04:15 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 01-29-2012, 04:59 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-29-2012, 05:03 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-29-2012, 05:09 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by D B Campbell - 01-29-2012, 05:19 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Macedon - 01-29-2012, 06:21 AM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Vindex - 01-29-2012, 03:41 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 01-29-2012, 05:49 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Mark Hygate - 01-29-2012, 10:52 PM
Re: Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 01-30-2012, 12:27 AM
Centurion Rank - by antiochus - 10-10-2013, 10:47 AM
Centurion Rank - by Flavivs Aetivs - 10-10-2013, 10:49 AM
Centurion Rank - by antiochus - 10-22-2013, 03:08 AM
Centurion Rank - by Flavivs Aetivs - 10-22-2013, 12:05 PM
Centurion Rank - by Nathan Ross - 10-22-2013, 01:05 PM
Centurion Rank - by Flavivs Aetivs - 10-22-2013, 02:10 PM
Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 10-22-2013, 03:25 PM
Centurion Rank - by Mark Hygate - 10-23-2013, 05:18 PM
Centurion Rank - by antiochus - 10-26-2013, 09:14 AM
Centurion Rank - by Renatus - 10-26-2013, 12:33 PM
Centurion Rank - by Mark Hygate - 10-26-2013, 04:51 PM
Centurion Rank - by antiochus - 10-28-2013, 08:29 AM

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