08-13-2014, 07:51 AM
[quote="antiochus" post=358107]Nathan wrote:
We don't know anything much for certain! Robert's source states 80 men, P-Hyginus said 80 men back in the 2nd (?) century. Beyond that there's not much.
OK, this, too seems to go back on the Pathermuthis documents. Pathermuthis served in Syene and Elephantine and the documents seems to be dated between 584 and 613 (http://www.trismegistos.org/arch/archives/pdf/37.pdf)
What I cannot find is the number of the Elephantine regiment, only the officers who appear in the witness-list: a primicerius, 7 more ordinarii (one of them an adiutor), augustales, flaviales, centurions, a tympanarius (drummer), a surgeon, 2 draconarii, a campidoctor, actuari and vicarii. (Jones, p. 675 and p. 1278, n. 158).
I fear that the statement by Treadgold may have been a circular argument. Knowing the number of officers and assuming the number in a command, he may have deduced the number of 80 commanded by each ordinarius.
An interesting article about Pathermuthis and recruitment: http://iowp.univie.ac.at/sites/default/f...il%201.pdf
We don't know anything much for certain! Robert's source states 80 men, P-Hyginus said 80 men back in the 2nd (?) century. Beyond that there's not much.
OK, this, too seems to go back on the Pathermuthis documents. Pathermuthis served in Syene and Elephantine and the documents seems to be dated between 584 and 613 (http://www.trismegistos.org/arch/archives/pdf/37.pdf)
What I cannot find is the number of the Elephantine regiment, only the officers who appear in the witness-list: a primicerius, 7 more ordinarii (one of them an adiutor), augustales, flaviales, centurions, a tympanarius (drummer), a surgeon, 2 draconarii, a campidoctor, actuari and vicarii. (Jones, p. 675 and p. 1278, n. 158).
I fear that the statement by Treadgold may have been a circular argument. Knowing the number of officers and assuming the number in a command, he may have deduced the number of 80 commanded by each ordinarius.
An interesting article about Pathermuthis and recruitment: http://iowp.univie.ac.at/sites/default/f...il%201.pdf
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
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