09-28-2014, 11:35 AM
Mark wrote:
Well, equally no one in the discussion has provided any evidence that the velites had any officers either –
No matter how you look at it four classes multiplied by 20 centurions per class and you get 80 centurions. So there are 20 spare centurions.
Mark wrote:
As to the remainder, I think I'm fairly accurate in pointing out that 'classes' are not a feature of the Polybian/Manipular legion
But, but, but, Polybius mentions the velites are the youngest and the poorest. It is the property class system that relates to wealth, so if the property class wasn’t associated with age, why does Polybius combine the two when he describes the velites?
Mark wrote:
In the actual Roman legions there are an additional 10 turmae of cavalry, which is where your figure of 40 may possibly come from,
Polybius does not describe the cavalry as being organised into maniples.
Well, equally no one in the discussion has provided any evidence that the velites had any officers either –
No matter how you look at it four classes multiplied by 20 centurions per class and you get 80 centurions. So there are 20 spare centurions.
Mark wrote:
As to the remainder, I think I'm fairly accurate in pointing out that 'classes' are not a feature of the Polybian/Manipular legion
But, but, but, Polybius mentions the velites are the youngest and the poorest. It is the property class system that relates to wealth, so if the property class wasn’t associated with age, why does Polybius combine the two when he describes the velites?
Mark wrote:
In the actual Roman legions there are an additional 10 turmae of cavalry, which is where your figure of 40 may possibly come from,
Polybius does not describe the cavalry as being organised into maniples.
