09-27-2003, 02:44 PM
Hi Wade,<br>
Sorry I've been pretty busy this week and haven't had much chance to get to the computer.<br>
Now you mention it, that temperature change may have stuck in the back of my mind from the RAT post as I don't recollect where I saw it.<br>
It would be interesting to know the source. I tried to find out more imfo on climate changes but didn't have much luck.<br>
As far as ancient sources go I dug up a couple of references by Pliny the Younger to winter.<br>
Describing his villa in Tuscany he writes that the air in winter is sharp and frosty and that olives and myrtles don't flourish although laurel thrives. He also comments that now and again the cold does kill it though not more often than it does in the neighbourhood of Rome.<br>
In book three he writes of his uncle:<br>
"And in winter saw that his hands were protected by long sleeves so that even bitter weather should not rob him of a working hour."<br>
<br>
I was wondering about the sleeves as I found another reference that suggests that besides being sewn to the tunic they were also worn as a separate part of the dress. What do you make of that one? Detachable sleeves?<br>
The site can be found here:<br>
www.ku.edu/history/index/...anica.html<br>
<br>
Looking at this I confess I am a bit confused about the translation of manicae as they seem to refer to both sleeves and gloves, and I can't figure out which Pliny was wearing. (It's sleeves in the Penguin translation of the letters.)<br>
The above text also mentions leggings. I've seen several passing references to these but can't seem to find any detailed imfo about them e.g what did they look like, who wore them, when etc? <br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>
I'm not sure what to make of the proxemics angle, though looking at group scenes from Roman art, the figures often seem to be bunched really close together!<br>
<br>
Jackie.<br>
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Sorry I've been pretty busy this week and haven't had much chance to get to the computer.<br>
Now you mention it, that temperature change may have stuck in the back of my mind from the RAT post as I don't recollect where I saw it.<br>
It would be interesting to know the source. I tried to find out more imfo on climate changes but didn't have much luck.<br>
As far as ancient sources go I dug up a couple of references by Pliny the Younger to winter.<br>
Describing his villa in Tuscany he writes that the air in winter is sharp and frosty and that olives and myrtles don't flourish although laurel thrives. He also comments that now and again the cold does kill it though not more often than it does in the neighbourhood of Rome.<br>
In book three he writes of his uncle:<br>
"And in winter saw that his hands were protected by long sleeves so that even bitter weather should not rob him of a working hour."<br>
<br>
I was wondering about the sleeves as I found another reference that suggests that besides being sewn to the tunic they were also worn as a separate part of the dress. What do you make of that one? Detachable sleeves?<br>
The site can be found here:<br>
www.ku.edu/history/index/...anica.html<br>
<br>
Looking at this I confess I am a bit confused about the translation of manicae as they seem to refer to both sleeves and gloves, and I can't figure out which Pliny was wearing. (It's sleeves in the Penguin translation of the letters.)<br>
The above text also mentions leggings. I've seen several passing references to these but can't seem to find any detailed imfo about them e.g what did they look like, who wore them, when etc? <br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>
I'm not sure what to make of the proxemics angle, though looking at group scenes from Roman art, the figures often seem to be bunched really close together!<br>
<br>
Jackie.<br>
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