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ISKANDER or SIKANDER?
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Quote:The 2nd quot was castilian dialect...hoplite 14gr Waaaait a minute! Were do you come from to claime such thing??? Sweden?... Germany?... Ukrain?... jajaja! you got it be kitting me no? Well this is my own opinion about who were the Goths: In deed, I belived that they were Thracians but more correctly called (Getic People). But my friend, if you are from Germany or Sweden etc., it is partialy what you can claime of Goth blood in your vains :lol: ...no?. At list in some part of France but more in Spain can clame the Goths or Visigoths in their veins Confusedhock: , for example in Asturias the surname of goths survived today and his people. Like the 1: Alvarado- Goths; 2: Lugo- descendant of Pelayo the Goth; 3: Gudier or Gutier of Noble stock. And many surname derived from a name of a person, like : Alvarez, Alvar-ro (ez) son of; from the Visigoth (All-were) means All Thruth; Alwar, "w" change to "v" Alvar; from Germanic: vere; uere;were;war etc. (Thruth). Of Arrianic or Cristianic religion... But Iknow that the Language of the Goths was still alive in the late medieval time at Ukrain. but I will like to reed your post...Belisarius blood :wink: at list I will learn something new.... Big Grin

In answer to my good friend Comerus Gallus Romus:
The Age is late Roman-early Byzantine. The guys are Goths of the Opsikion Regiment (Heavy horsemen). They were initialy stationed in Thrace and quartered in Adrianoupolis. Some Vitalianos mixed them up in a coup de etat against emperor Anastasios . The regiment was exiled in the Asia Minor province that later became the Opsikion Theme. The ring leaders were exiled in Phokis in central Greece. The place was called Lidorikion. As additional punishment they were not supported by the town but they had to cultivate their own fields. They married Greek women and they were slowly hellenized. Prokopius talks of the Thracian Goth voukkelarioi of Velissarios at the campagn in Italy. At the time of Velissarios they were called Thracean Goths. The Opsikion troops died in a blaze of glory in Mantzikert 1071. Opsikioi in the Greek language of the time means distinguished!
Michael Glykas and Nikitas Xoniatis talk about the "Gothogrekoi" that put hell of a fight against the Bulgarians of Samouel in the 10th century.
The Bulgars called the place Skarmintza "cursed place" because of their casualties. Today on the map of Greece is called again Lidoriki.
My family name is Skarmintzos which means that my ancestors came from the place so I might have a trace from the exiles.
They were tough lads that never srank from their duty!

In answer to my good friend Paul
Alans are most likely the modern Ossetians.
In Dagestan a country the size of Louxembourg there are 32 nationalities!
Half of them might be turkic but the other half are European.
There is a nationality calling themselves Avars( in russian Avarits!)
Another nationality calls themselve Mordi(Mardian archers?)
A friend of mine who was studing Medicine in Milan told me there are Ostrogothic speaking villages in the Italian Alps!
People do not simply disappear because historians do not talk about their wars. If we take the name of Goths they might be coming from Gottland penisula in Sweden. They might be the Getae if we take them by the name.
Herodottos did not consider the Getae Thraceans but rather Skythian.
Plutarchos rants against him saying that he does not know what he talks about!
Some web pages claim that the long lost Tocharians are people with the Celtic caracteristics. In the "Grave of the Clay soldiers" The more you close to the imperial chariot the less "Chinese" are the troops!
It must have been quite a time!
Excuse my long rant I tried to answer or comment to everybody here!
OK! I repeat we should discuss these over a good drink!!!!
A dry throat is a bad advisor!
Sweet Mavrodafni is OK I hope FAVENTIANVS (Thanks for enlightening me in languages!)
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ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by FAVENTIANVS - 05-06-2005, 03:52 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 05-07-2005, 07:59 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by FAVENTIANVS - 05-08-2005, 10:50 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 05-08-2005, 12:38 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by FAVENTIANVS - 05-09-2005, 03:23 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by FAVENTIANVS - 05-09-2005, 04:16 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 05-09-2005, 06:29 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by FAVENTIANVS - 05-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Iskander - by Anonymous - 05-10-2005, 11:20 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 05-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 05-31-2005, 11:18 AM
Iskander - by Anonymous - 06-01-2005, 10:05 AM
Re: Iskander - by hoplite14gr - 06-01-2005, 01:08 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-01-2005, 01:21 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-05-2005, 12:13 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Dan Diffendale - 06-06-2005, 01:03 AM
Sikander - by Anonymous - 06-06-2005, 07:57 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 06-06-2005, 11:50 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-06-2005, 01:36 PM
Tocharians - by Anonymous - 06-08-2005, 01:38 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 06-08-2005, 03:09 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-08-2005, 06:45 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2005, 07:58 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-09-2005, 12:28 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2005, 05:18 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 06-10-2005, 09:02 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-12-2005, 06:42 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-13-2005, 12:41 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 06-14-2005, 11:02 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Antigonos - 07-07-2005, 01:07 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 07-07-2005, 08:13 PM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by Robert Vermaat - 07-08-2005, 06:31 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 07-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Re: ISKANDER or SIKANDER? - by hoplite14gr - 07-08-2005, 06:57 PM

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