Appearence and tactics of early 5th century Saxons.

[ambrosius]

Hi Andreas,
Thanks for that effort! Laudes awarded.
Just goes to show, you can't trust the 'results' of any research.... :x

Well you could if the results weren't biased by those doing
the research. As I keep saying on Arthurnet, most people who have
joined that list bring a huge baggage of preconceived ideas with them
(and we know what they are, don't we 8) ) and they just will not be
made to look at the evidence dispationately. The same for Pryor's
Britain AD and the study of the West Heslerton evidence, apparently.
If a political agenda requires a certain 'slant' on the conclusion, in order
to pay the funding for the research, then that's what you get. :evil: :roll:

However, the reason for me using the West Heslerton research was to make another point, which still stands. This point was that the cemetery failed to show a large group of foreigners, especially males or warriors, who were supposed to signify the large wave of immigrants that, according to current belief, reached Britain in the 5th or 6th centuries and displaced the native inhabitants.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Actually, ArVee, I'd say
that your other point is in a slightly more recumbent position than
'still standing'. More like 'flat on its back'. 8)

Of course it is wrong to state that, on the basis of the research results pointed out above, that people migrated from ‘west of the Pennines’ if that is not altogether sure. Indeed, they could have come from Wales or Norway...

...or Denmark or northern Germany?

(which seems as likely as the others). But so far, if I’m not mistaken, none represent that warrior group that is said to have arrived early and in big numbers.

But are you sure you're not mistaken? What's the percentage
of weapons burials among the earliest graves. Does anybody know?
And don't forget to include the women, will you... :lol:

And yes, I realise that this group could have arrived, did their thing and moved away, leaving room for later migrants to arrive at leisure over an extended period of time. Or they did not arrive there at all – the (lack of) evidence goes either way. But the West Heslerton cemetery does not prove the arrival of a large wave of migrant warriors from northern Germany or south Scandinavia which then settled there, which was (part of) the original point.

Actually, from what Andreas has just said, I rather thought
that it might. Certainly, it's possible - from what he says - that none of
the bodies so far examined come from native Britons at all... 8)

Ambrosius/Mike[/quote]