08-08-2006, 07:43 PM
lol
Thanks tarbi...
The scutum construction i'm talking about is the 3 layered plywood type. I saw that falx demo cut pretty deep into a scutum of this type at Roman days back in '05...I see no reason to believe that a polearm couldn't penetrate it fully on an angular cut, or a larger version of the falx (nagamaki). Of course, it could also get stuck in it, in which case the shield becomes useless, and it's back to katana vs gladius.
The only reason why I say the weapon with longer range has the advantage, is because of a 7th dan kendoka getting destroyed by a 5th dan Naginata...the swordsman simply couldn't get inside the naginata's defense. And the 7th dan is one of the best swordsman I know of. Weapon range plays a very large part in success of attack.
But of course, the success of the legionary getting in on the samurai is all dependant upon IF he gets by the samurai's weapon. I see no reason why the samurai couldn't cut the feet or lower legs of the Legionary the same way the Dacians did in the 2nd century. If the samurai is armed with something longer, the legionary is in trouble...it's hard to get in when someone is poking a big...ummm...pokey thing in your face, or at your feet.
Speaking of...in a 1 on 1 situation, has anyone tried grabing the scutum of their enemy with a free hand, and putting body weight behind it, in order to immobilize it? Especially if you grabbed towards the left hand side of it, away from the sword. This seems like it would make the scutum ineffective, and would open the legionary up to all kinds of damage from the shield side. Plus, the gladius would have a hard time reaching around the front of the shield to hit a fully armored attacker and do any significant damage.
If the legionary lets go of the sheild, then he's in trouble again.
Thanks tarbi...
The scutum construction i'm talking about is the 3 layered plywood type. I saw that falx demo cut pretty deep into a scutum of this type at Roman days back in '05...I see no reason to believe that a polearm couldn't penetrate it fully on an angular cut, or a larger version of the falx (nagamaki). Of course, it could also get stuck in it, in which case the shield becomes useless, and it's back to katana vs gladius.
The only reason why I say the weapon with longer range has the advantage, is because of a 7th dan kendoka getting destroyed by a 5th dan Naginata...the swordsman simply couldn't get inside the naginata's defense. And the 7th dan is one of the best swordsman I know of. Weapon range plays a very large part in success of attack.
But of course, the success of the legionary getting in on the samurai is all dependant upon IF he gets by the samurai's weapon. I see no reason why the samurai couldn't cut the feet or lower legs of the Legionary the same way the Dacians did in the 2nd century. If the samurai is armed with something longer, the legionary is in trouble...it's hard to get in when someone is poking a big...ummm...pokey thing in your face, or at your feet.
Speaking of...in a 1 on 1 situation, has anyone tried grabing the scutum of their enemy with a free hand, and putting body weight behind it, in order to immobilize it? Especially if you grabbed towards the left hand side of it, away from the sword. This seems like it would make the scutum ineffective, and would open the legionary up to all kinds of damage from the shield side. Plus, the gladius would have a hard time reaching around the front of the shield to hit a fully armored attacker and do any significant damage.
If the legionary lets go of the sheild, then he's in trouble again.
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Magnus/Matt
Du Courage Viens La Verité
Legion: TBD
Magnus/Matt
Du Courage Viens La Verité
Legion: TBD
