10-17-2009, 04:01 AM
The strange thing about Morris is his placement of "Theodoric son of Thiudebald" into a timeframe that falls between that of the pedigrees. Somehow, he pictured Tewdrig as a Gothic ships-captain, a refugee from the Kingdom of Toulouse. And he confused two Tewdrigs into one. There was another Tewdrig (a tyrannus of Cornwall who kept a snake-pit to toss Irish monks into) who was the great-grand-nephew of Emyr Llydaw (John/Riothamus?).
I have copies of the Tewdrig ap Theithfallt pedigrees, 8 or 9 of them, and no two are the same. :roll:
The scribes really had a hard time fitting these guys into a niche. And Rice caught it as "a break in the pedigrees about the time the Romans departed." In most the pedigrees they are attached to the line of Ninniaw/Nennius but the generations vary up to three lifetimes. There is a grandfather or uncle, in three or four pedigees, who is recorded as Trythearn or Teithrin (Fritigern?). :?
Goths did have high positions in Britain. We find Nectaridus/Nectarid as Count of the Saxon Shore in 367 (Ammianus). My theory can't be proven, but it can't be summerily dismissed either-- there was a cultural/military infusion that brought the dragon and bear into Roman Britain, and the symbols were carried by the two Equites Taifali units. And there is more than a possibility that Theithfallt/Thiudebalth was the commander. It's theory. But it does explain the connections that could easily have spawned "the Bear" and the national flag of Wales. In that context-- theory-- it seems related to the sub-Roman cavalry.
Robert, there's more. Look for a private message.
I have copies of the Tewdrig ap Theithfallt pedigrees, 8 or 9 of them, and no two are the same. :roll:
The scribes really had a hard time fitting these guys into a niche. And Rice caught it as "a break in the pedigrees about the time the Romans departed." In most the pedigrees they are attached to the line of Ninniaw/Nennius but the generations vary up to three lifetimes. There is a grandfather or uncle, in three or four pedigees, who is recorded as Trythearn or Teithrin (Fritigern?). :?
Goths did have high positions in Britain. We find Nectaridus/Nectarid as Count of the Saxon Shore in 367 (Ammianus). My theory can't be proven, but it can't be summerily dismissed either-- there was a cultural/military infusion that brought the dragon and bear into Roman Britain, and the symbols were carried by the two Equites Taifali units. And there is more than a possibility that Theithfallt/Thiudebalth was the commander. It's theory. But it does explain the connections that could easily have spawned "the Bear" and the national flag of Wales. In that context-- theory-- it seems related to the sub-Roman cavalry.
Robert, there's more. Look for a private message.
Alan J. Campbell
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb