04-01-2010, 08:09 PM
Interesting about the "rock." The Alans had a sacred location, White Mountain, now unknown.
Yes. Various tales of shamaans sticking swords in the mound during storms in order to get lightning to strike and carbonise the steel etc etc... I seem to recall these are Russian tales but they are still Alannic etc. And it is Danubian clts who seemed to have developed the armopury business, with a rep for being utterly spineless in war which got tranlsated onto the Czech.s
If my theory is correct, then the British Celts (and Armorican Brits) were not so distant culturally from the Alans, both having the probable same progenitor. Other cultural likenesses between these two tribes existed: they weaved similar tweeds, spoke similar languages, worshiped water fairies, venerated the stag, and produced women warriors. Hard to find other cultures, such as the Germans, Romans, Greeks, etc. that had the same affinities.
Yes. And white stags too! Rusalky were definitely a shared thing. Intrestingly, the Finns have that..and developed their Lake Ore iron making. Curious threads these.
Personally I agree with Herwig Wolfram-- the Taifali were Sarmatians, probably an Alanic subtribe that attached itself to the Tryfingi at an early date, and thus gave that branch of the Goths the practice of sword worship. :wink:
I agree. And there is no question that when the Goths and Sarmatians were not at war with each other, they were best of pals and allies. Look at Jordanes Mum!.
I think the name "Alan" arrived in Scotland through the Fitzalans who came over with William the Bastard. Somebody brought it at a late date, and I got
stuck with it. :lol:
I stayed in Scotland 20 years and when the "Scottish Alan theory" was presented to me I was incredulous. Sceptical too. Now it is starting to seem a fact. If you look at the Roxburghe crowd or even the Blackadders, they ve all got big chunks of Fitz this, that and Alan mixed in. Somne of it from before Willem's time because many seem to have gone up as condottiori. Hase you seen all the stuff on haplotypes and matching DNA links with the Borders and POland???
Yes. Various tales of shamaans sticking swords in the mound during storms in order to get lightning to strike and carbonise the steel etc etc... I seem to recall these are Russian tales but they are still Alannic etc. And it is Danubian clts who seemed to have developed the armopury business, with a rep for being utterly spineless in war which got tranlsated onto the Czech.s
If my theory is correct, then the British Celts (and Armorican Brits) were not so distant culturally from the Alans, both having the probable same progenitor. Other cultural likenesses between these two tribes existed: they weaved similar tweeds, spoke similar languages, worshiped water fairies, venerated the stag, and produced women warriors. Hard to find other cultures, such as the Germans, Romans, Greeks, etc. that had the same affinities.
Yes. And white stags too! Rusalky were definitely a shared thing. Intrestingly, the Finns have that..and developed their Lake Ore iron making. Curious threads these.
Personally I agree with Herwig Wolfram-- the Taifali were Sarmatians, probably an Alanic subtribe that attached itself to the Tryfingi at an early date, and thus gave that branch of the Goths the practice of sword worship. :wink:
I agree. And there is no question that when the Goths and Sarmatians were not at war with each other, they were best of pals and allies. Look at Jordanes Mum!.
I think the name "Alan" arrived in Scotland through the Fitzalans who came over with William the Bastard. Somebody brought it at a late date, and I got
stuck with it. :lol:
I stayed in Scotland 20 years and when the "Scottish Alan theory" was presented to me I was incredulous. Sceptical too. Now it is starting to seem a fact. If you look at the Roxburghe crowd or even the Blackadders, they ve all got big chunks of Fitz this, that and Alan mixed in. Somne of it from before Willem's time because many seem to have gone up as condottiori. Hase you seen all the stuff on haplotypes and matching DNA links with the Borders and POland???
Roderic Wout..
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