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The name "Octavian"
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Yep, I now also found something similar in the Neue Pauly, and there is the famous line in the Letters to Atticus (14.12.2) that Cicero did not know what to call the friendly young man, finally deciding not to call him Caesar. I wonder what Cicero might have said if he had survived. Not divi filius, I'm sure, but I think he would also have said Caesar.

The generations after Cicero always call the boy Caesar, as he continued to call himself; it is only later that the Ciceronian name became the name of Augustus before he was Augustus. Syme and Jones are extremely unhelpful.

At the moment, my hypothesis is Aurelius Victor, who surely calls the young man Octavian and was widely read.
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The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 10-02-2006, 06:45 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jasper Oorthuys - 10-02-2006, 06:53 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 10-02-2006, 07:05 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jasper Oorthuys - 10-02-2006, 07:12 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 10-02-2006, 07:39 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by john m roberts - 10-02-2006, 03:34 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Matthew - 10-02-2006, 05:19 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 10-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Gaius_Calvus - 10-11-2006, 05:13 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Crispvs - 10-11-2006, 07:10 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Gaius_Calvus - 10-11-2006, 07:14 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 11-07-2006, 11:24 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jeroen Pelgrom - 11-08-2006, 07:18 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Tib. Gabinius - 11-08-2006, 11:23 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 11-08-2006, 02:51 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by john m roberts - 11-08-2006, 04:52 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 04-16-2009, 11:50 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Sean Manning - 04-17-2009, 04:32 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 04-17-2009, 04:47 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jesper D - 04-17-2009, 06:47 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 04-17-2009, 07:57 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jesper D - 04-17-2009, 08:56 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 04-17-2009, 09:02 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 04-17-2009, 09:14 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jesper D - 04-17-2009, 09:27 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by SOCL - 04-17-2009, 09:38 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jesper D - 04-17-2009, 10:27 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 04-17-2009, 10:31 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by john m roberts - 04-18-2009, 05:25 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Lucius Rabirius - 04-18-2009, 05:50 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 04-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Lucius Rabirius - 04-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 04-18-2009, 10:17 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by D B Campbell - 04-19-2009, 02:20 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by john m roberts - 04-19-2009, 05:52 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Jona Lendering - 05-12-2009, 01:37 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Epictetus - 05-12-2009, 05:13 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by D B Campbell - 05-12-2009, 07:33 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by Epictetus - 05-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by D B Campbell - 07-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by hansvl - 07-06-2009, 04:59 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by D B Campbell - 07-06-2009, 05:12 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by hansvl - 07-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by D B Campbell - 07-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Re: The name "Octavian" - by hansvl - 07-07-2009, 11:43 AM

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