11-25-2007, 10:29 AM
Quote:your fairytale based on nothing but a barely possible interpretation of a word used by a late (as in 500years later!) authorI wouldn't be so insulting as to call your version a "fairytale", Paul.
The fact is: I'm attempting to interpret a confusing passage with reasoned argument, while you're bombasting us with opinion masquerading as "fact".
Quote:you don't read the sources,( or for that matter the very post you quote! ) even after I give you the references, or you'd know that Onomarchus didn't make it off the battlefield.This is the kind of bombast I'm talking about.
It would've been sufficient for you to explain why you think that Onomarchus died in battle, and I would've replied with Diodorus 16.35.5, where he clearly refers to "the fugitives, amongst whom was Onomarchus himself, cast off their armour and attempted to reach the [Athenian] triremes".
Quote:before the incident with Onomarchus, Philip has no catapults, and a few short years afterward, he is the foremost artillerist in Greece!
Many long years, actually (if we go along with your friend, Eric Marsden).
But never with stone-projecting catapults. So I am still unclear why this is relevant to the Onomarchus episode.
Quote:but who else (scholars, I mean) holds to your 'opinion'?Do we judge a case by weight of numbers?! Novel approach!
Quote:Charon's non-torsion stonethrower.But of course, you must have known that, mustn't you ? :wink:Again, I'm unclear what relevance Charon's bow-machine has to the Onomarchus episode.
Quote:a very similar sized machine, 2.3mx2.3 m, designed by Zopyrus, is called, and described as, a"Mountain Gastraphetes" demonstrating that machines of this size could, and doubtless were, used in mountains/hills( by Onomarchus, for example!)Zopyrus designed arrow-shooters. So, yet again, I'm unclear what relevance this has to the Onomarchus episode.D lol:
Quote:Then it will be my turn to pour scorn and sarcasm......I think we've had quite enough of your scorn and sarcasm, thanks. :roll:
