11-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Aha Success! Yes I can also confirm this was the one. Good for pointing out that sword Giannis. I also remembered that and how much I loved this very rare and not often illustrated type ( I do remember at least one artifact find of this overall type - find place was Kerameikos in Greece if I remember right) I had hoped those other features I pointed out might have been of help too, The Argos Kegel for ex: (Though this was in the Rava one and possibly others too) so maybe not distinct enough. Though the Proto-Corinthian (see main figure to the right fighting the mostly Argos inspired warrior)- was what I was talking about. I like His Early and rare shield; A 'Hertzsprung' or derived type- believed to have originated in Central Europe( I have theorized this type may have become widespread through Dorian contacts with more northwestern regions outside of mainland Greece). I also see a partly obscured Boeotian variety or partly Diplyon hybrid perhaps- shame there doesn't appear to be any true Dipylons though.
As a few important side notes BTW I am of the belief that The Dipylon came in several possible varieties of construction and shape- one construction being more solid and of heavier wood- likely laminated(as opposed/in conjunction to the more widely thought- wickerwork)- as well as altered shape (in the 3d sense) and the degree of convexity- Near flat types are very likely to have existed too.
Thanks so much for finding this again Gioi, and the last Marathon plate; I think I knew of this one- but this may be the first time I've seen it.
PS: Was this in the same place as I asked before, having been in the Encyclopedia/s or elsewhere? (just wondering); And most importantly, What was the original publication in which it was featured?
Thanks again to both of you!
Jon
As a few important side notes BTW I am of the belief that The Dipylon came in several possible varieties of construction and shape- one construction being more solid and of heavier wood- likely laminated(as opposed/in conjunction to the more widely thought- wickerwork)- as well as altered shape (in the 3d sense) and the degree of convexity- Near flat types are very likely to have existed too.
Thanks so much for finding this again Gioi, and the last Marathon plate; I think I knew of this one- but this may be the first time I've seen it.
PS: Was this in the same place as I asked before, having been in the Encyclopedia/s or elsewhere? (just wondering); And most importantly, What was the original publication in which it was featured?
Thanks again to both of you!
Jon