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Draping the chiton
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Christian,veeery nice chiton. I LOVE the matterial!!! I tried to find propper wool before switching to linen for my later chiton,but of course i couldn't. Your matterial is the best one could use for a woolen one.
I don't agree on the absence of linen. Seriously,how can you think that an Athens that could import everything from all Mediterrannean and even beyond (literally and archaeological evidence for this) would not import linen? After all,linen fabric has indeed been found in greece from the mycenean era in more than one occasion. Now it's you that you have to try hard to convince me that linen was being imported (or produced) in greece from the mycenean era,but in the classical one linen was "too expensive" to be imported. Nah,i don't believ so.
I would agree though that it would have been much rarer than wool.

Can i also doubt about the amount of matterial you used? I used three meters for the last one,and you said you used the double. Can this be true? Mine looks even fuller than yours.

I have to make a small point about the style too. The doubling on the belly is indeed late 5th-4th century but by that time the curved bottom and arranges pleats are no more in fashion. These stop before 450 bc.
I have seen the doubling of the "kolpos" under short muscled cuirasses in Parthenon but haven't happened to see it under a t & y thorax.
I believe this style is a Persian one. Greeks were comming more and more in contact with persian soldiers towards the end of the 5th century,perhaps it was an adoption from them,or the Ionians.

Also,as John pointed out,cut fabric was certainly used. But even if not,i'm sure that the greeks could actually weave in a more complicated pattern than rectangles.

Byron,thanks for the comment. I'll be happy to help if you're starting a greek kit.
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
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Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-15-2009, 01:39 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-31-2009, 03:25 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-31-2009, 03:27 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 11-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-02-2009, 08:06 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-02-2009, 08:28 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 11-05-2009, 06:34 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Nikic031 - 11-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-01-2009, 08:39 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 12-02-2009, 01:50 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-02-2009, 02:37 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Quintus Galerius - 12-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Quintus Galerius - 12-09-2009, 10:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-09-2009, 07:37 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 12-11-2009, 02:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-11-2009, 02:21 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-02-2010, 12:13 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-02-2010, 11:12 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010, 12:48 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-03-2010, 01:11 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-03-2010, 05:57 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010, 06:52 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by dienekes480bc - 12-12-2011, 07:23 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 12-12-2011, 04:08 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-03-2012, 02:09 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-03-2012, 02:59 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-03-2012, 04:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-03-2012, 04:52 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Dithyrambus - 02-03-2012, 07:46 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Andy Malcolm - 02-03-2012, 08:53 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-05-2012, 04:32 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 02-09-2012, 05:56 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-09-2012, 05:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Dithyrambus - 02-09-2012, 06:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-10-2012, 05:11 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-26-2016, 11:51 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-27-2016, 06:36 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-27-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-27-2016, 02:26 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 01-28-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-28-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-29-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-29-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-29-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-29-2016, 05:45 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-07-2016, 09:37 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-07-2016, 08:00 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-07-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-07-2016, 08:58 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 05-08-2016, 05:59 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-08-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 05-08-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-11-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-11-2016, 08:02 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-11-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-12-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-13-2016, 07:42 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 05-13-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-13-2016, 09:47 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-14-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Athena Areias - 05-16-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Titus Vettidius Cladus - 03-29-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 03-29-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Jack Svendsen - 03-29-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Titus Vettidius Cladus - 03-29-2019, 04:08 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 03-29-2019, 09:50 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Jack Svendsen - 04-10-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 04-12-2019, 07:24 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-26-2011, 04:46 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-27-2011, 05:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-27-2011, 06:00 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-27-2011, 09:09 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Joe - 11-27-2011, 09:17 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 11-27-2011, 09:41 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-27-2011, 09:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-28-2011, 03:09 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-28-2011, 03:17 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-28-2011, 06:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-28-2011, 08:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-28-2011, 09:54 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 01:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 03:57 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 04:34 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 06:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 06:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 04:31 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 05:13 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 11-29-2011, 06:12 PM

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