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Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride
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I know the ones you mean. Their provenance is stated to be Herculaneum and they are [or were] displayed in the Museo Archeologico Nazionale in Naples along with the gladiatorial stuff from Pompeii. Opinions differ as to whether they were meant to be actually worn or not. When I saw them for real I thought they looked truly vile, but some think that with a crest attached they look OK. There is confusion about the size of them. Junkelmann states that they measure 30 or so cm from front to back, which would make them too big to be worn, but others say that this measurement includes the neck guard. I would have to go to Naples again and look for myself or find a better catalogue description of them before I would be convinced. I do recall that they "looked" very oversized though. They may or may not indeed be "transitional" gladiatorial helmets. Your guess is as good as anyone else's in this case. There is certainly good evidence for similar such open faced helmets being worn by gladiators at the turn of the first century BC and earlier.<br>
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Susan <p></p><i></i>
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Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride - by richard - 12-01-2001, 04:19 AM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 11:22 AM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 01:29 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by richard - 08-22-2002, 10:53 PM
Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 08:21 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by richard - 08-23-2002, 09:49 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 10:09 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 12:29 PM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:01 PM
morituri te salutant - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:09 PM
morituri te salutant - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:15 PM
rephrase - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:26 PM
Re: rephrase - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 02:36 PM
Osprey gladiators - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-23-2002, 05:16 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 05:35 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 10:51 AM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 01:50 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - New Edition - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 11:08 PM
Revised Osprey Gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-25-2002, 03:40 PM
Re: Revised Osprey Gladiator - by richard - 08-25-2002, 05:15 PM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride - by Anonymous - 08-25-2002, 07:20 PM
Re: Revised Osprey Gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-26-2002, 09:18 AM
Re: Osprey gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-27-2002, 09:40 AM
Osprey Gladiators - by Muzzaguchi - 08-30-2002, 12:51 AM
Bad Osprey! - by Anonymous - 09-15-2002, 01:11 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by Robert Vermaat - 09-17-2002, 11:01 AM
Re: Angus McBride - by Anonymous - 10-14-2002, 12:26 PM
manicae - by John Maddox Roberts - 10-14-2002, 02:52 PM
Re: manicae - by mcbishop - 10-14-2002, 04:23 PM
Re: manicae - by Anonymous - 10-15-2002, 12:12 PM
zliten mosaic - by John Maddox Roberts - 10-15-2002, 11:27 PM
Re: zliten mosaic - by Anonymous - 10-17-2002, 07:39 AM
Zliten and arm guards - by Anonymous - 11-01-2002, 04:59 PM
Zliten provocatores - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-02-2002, 04:10 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 12:46 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 03:28 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 05:20 PM
zliten provocatores and hoplo shield - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-04-2002, 06:16 PM
Hoplo salad bowls - by Anonymous - 11-05-2002, 05:56 PM
Re: Provocator Helmet - by Anonymous - 11-06-2002, 02:15 PM
provocator crests - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 02:43 PM
correction - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 03:58 PM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-06-2002, 04:12 PM
sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 06:24 PM
Sica - by Anonymous - 11-07-2002, 09:42 AM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-07-2002, 05:29 PM
weird sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-07-2002, 08:32 PM
curved sicae - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 11:59 AM
Re: curved sicae - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 12:34 PM
That helmet - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 01:53 PM
sica and helmet - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-08-2002, 06:07 PM
helmets thread and translation - by Anonymous - 11-10-2002, 01:19 PM
provenance - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-10-2002, 08:42 PM
Re: provenance - by Gashford - 11-11-2002, 10:10 AM
thracian - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-11-2002, 04:41 PM
Re: blood - by Anonymous - 11-13-2002, 02:02 PM
Zliten secutor - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-14-2002, 03:26 PM
Re: Zliten secutor - by Gashford - 11-14-2002, 04:00 PM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-15-2002, 05:39 PM
sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-16-2002, 02:26 AM
Epee - by Gashford - 11-16-2002, 02:33 PM
enigmatic sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-16-2002, 03:37 PM
British Museum - by Gashford - 11-16-2002, 05:41 PM
Re: British Museum - by Anonymous - 11-18-2002, 01:24 PM
odd sword - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-18-2002, 02:24 PM
Re: odd sword - by Anonymous - 11-19-2002, 02:03 PM
pointless swords - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-19-2002, 06:30 PM
addition - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-19-2002, 06:34 PM
various - by Anonymous - 11-20-2002, 10:33 AM
Sword not from Pompeii - by Anonymous - 11-21-2002, 10:46 AM
Re: Sword not from Pompeii - by Gashford - 11-22-2002, 12:22 PM
The sword in the OSPREY BOOK - by Anonymous - 11-22-2002, 01:40 PM
kebab skewer - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-22-2002, 03:06 PM
the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-22-2002, 03:33 PM
Re: the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-25-2002, 01:57 PM
Re: the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-25-2002, 02:12 PM
Gladiator forum - by Gashford - 12-05-2002, 07:49 PM
Re: Gladiator forum - by Jasper Oorthuys - 12-05-2002, 07:55 PM
Re: Gladiator forum - by Gashford - 12-21-2002, 12:41 AM

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