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Seniores and Iuniores (again)
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(01-08-2021, 04:27 PM)Colonel Chabert Wrote: What confused me was Ammianus...

Trying to determine his chronology is often rather mind-bending. If you have a few spare hours, try to work out what happened when in AD361-2...


(01-08-2021, 04:27 PM)Colonel Chabert Wrote: So assuming these units were part of the Persian Expedition this was the second time they passed through Constantinople coming from the East.

Presumably (based on the names) both units originally came from the west. A detachment of them might have marched east with Julian in 361, and ended up based there and renamed Iuniores. As eastern field army units they would have returned to the area around Constantinople (probably) after the debacle in Persia, then marched east with Valens, then back to Constantinople again on their way to Thracia.

Ammianus mentions a Tungrecani and Divitenses pair fighting the Alamanni on the Rhine in January 367, which cannot possibly have been the same units that supported Procopius, so must have been the ones (later?) called Seniores.

There's also a Iovii and Victores pair who defected to Procopius in the winter of 365-66; these are apparently not the same units sent to Britain under Comes Theodosius in 367-8. Interesting that Ammianus identifies the eastern Tungri/Divitenses par as Iuniores but doesn't distinguish the others. I don't think he calls any unit Seniores.
Nathan Ross
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RE: Seniores and Iuniores (again) - by kavan - 12-16-2020, 07:32 AM
RE: Seniores and Iuniores (again) - by Renatus - 12-22-2020, 12:07 PM
RE: Seniores and Iuniores (again) - by Nathan Ross - 01-09-2021, 12:42 AM

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