06-22-2008, 01:22 PM
First,Herodotus is talking aonly of female chitons. And indeed,big pins,very often elaborate and richly decorated have been found.Some of them are golden,and yes,they have a very long point. But such pins are shown used to fasten the peplos and not the chiton itself. Is Herodotus saying "clothes", "chitons" or "peplos"?
I have not seen anything identified as "buttons" in museums. What i do have seen,though, is burrials where the clothes have not survived,of cource,but around the body there are small rounded glass or stone fittings that were pierced and supposedly "sewn" on the clothes. Such burrial can be seen for example in the Abdera museum.
The long pins described by Herodotus are indeed very fearsome,so much that i often wonder how didn't they injure themselces. They also seem very heavy(given they're made of gold or bronze). In Thessaloniki museum there are some golden ones more than 10cm long!
Sleeved chitons existed in early times,as a descendant of mycenean clothing. In Archaic times there were no sleeves,only artificial ones,made by fastening the chiton in more than one spot. The "fake" sleeved chitons appear again in early 4th century.
Khairete
Giannis
I have not seen anything identified as "buttons" in museums. What i do have seen,though, is burrials where the clothes have not survived,of cource,but around the body there are small rounded glass or stone fittings that were pierced and supposedly "sewn" on the clothes. Such burrial can be seen for example in the Abdera museum.
The long pins described by Herodotus are indeed very fearsome,so much that i often wonder how didn't they injure themselces. They also seem very heavy(given they're made of gold or bronze). In Thessaloniki museum there are some golden ones more than 10cm long!
Sleeved chitons existed in early times,as a descendant of mycenean clothing. In Archaic times there were no sleeves,only artificial ones,made by fastening the chiton in more than one spot. The "fake" sleeved chitons appear again in early 4th century.
Khairete
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax