11-24-2010, 01:32 PM
We both know we cannot prove anything in this case, it is just enjoyable speculation.
We have boeotian helmets and at least one petasos helmet with holes punched around the edge which may have been used to cover the helmet in material, like a 17th century secret. But I suspect these holes are really for a leather edging, as we see on late Roman helmets. And to use your example we certainly do have phrygian caps tied back in such a way to show metal underneath the soft covering. So perhaps some of those nice hats did contain metal skull caps beneath them.
I disagree that the "vast majority "of tube and yokes show great flexibility, but some do show limited flexibility. Although of course any metal fittings may not reduce flexibility. Relatively flexibility cannot really be used as proof one way or the other.
The idea of up grading armour through the use of extra bits of metal is not to be dismissed. Our tank crews still do it today.
But as I initally said the issue of hiding any expensive metal fittings is an issue.
Speculation is fun, and one reason why I like this period so much.
We have boeotian helmets and at least one petasos helmet with holes punched around the edge which may have been used to cover the helmet in material, like a 17th century secret. But I suspect these holes are really for a leather edging, as we see on late Roman helmets. And to use your example we certainly do have phrygian caps tied back in such a way to show metal underneath the soft covering. So perhaps some of those nice hats did contain metal skull caps beneath them.
I disagree that the "vast majority "of tube and yokes show great flexibility, but some do show limited flexibility. Although of course any metal fittings may not reduce flexibility. Relatively flexibility cannot really be used as proof one way or the other.
The idea of up grading armour through the use of extra bits of metal is not to be dismissed. Our tank crews still do it today.
But as I initally said the issue of hiding any expensive metal fittings is an issue.
Speculation is fun, and one reason why I like this period so much.
John Conyard
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