08-19-2003, 09:36 AM
SALVE, HONESTVS POPVLVS.<br>
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This is my first trip to this forum, I came across it as I was wondering how the C was spelled in the time of the Roman Empire. I found numerous sources that suggested C and Q were only uttered with a K sound. So the "Sæsar" pronounciation we have today is a bit incorrect as it is closer to "Kaisr"/"Kaisar" - and a name is a name. I personally dislike the constant translation/morphing of the names of historical people. It's ok to name our newly born children using chronologically mutated names. But, when we refer to a historical figure, I think we should treat their names with respect and at least try to utter it and type it the way it was back. Example, there was a 19 year old warrior leader called Jehanne d'Arc. The name she carries eventually mutated to Jeanne in France, and in English it was translated into Joan. This historical character's name was mutated as well as the generic name.<br>
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Enough of that. I must say I really liked Jenny's suggestion about the relationships between TRIARII, HASTATI and PRINCIPES in R:TW. Just like I would have said it myself -well I did in the LegionTWCenter forum, but not as concisely as this.<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Perhaps triarii will be the slowest, but best defensively, like spearmen, with the highest morale and armor. While hastati and principes will be faster, but hastati lack much armor and have lower morale, and principes have good armor and normal morale. And all will have an excellent attack, let's say, because the legion was always a straightforward meatgrinding machine.<br>
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Perhaps the hastati and principes could suffer a drop in morale if the triarii are too far out of "rescue" range.<hr><br>
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Yes, the Triarii would be primarily spearmen as they carried the hastae as their primary weapon (no pilae), gladivs was always secondary to them. They were the oldest (35-40), they had the most experience from battles, but they had a lowered state of bodily physique - however, this affected their agility and joints, not as much the stamina. There is a popular contemporary misconception that the older men (or women) has a stamina (lounge capacity + heart capacity) that is much inferior to the younger ones. This is of course the case in our society, in which you MAY start getting lazy after 35-40 and start eating unhealthily and stop working out. This is not the case with the triarii, even if they rarely were used in combat (due to the hastati/principes winning), that doesn't change the fact that they had seen much more fighting previously as they were veteran principes once, and they would surely hone their skills in some training facilities daily - simply maintaining their hard-fought experience, like some anti-rust.<br>
And if this high state of workout is the case, I can assure you, the heart/lounge capacity is actually HIGHER in the veterans (35-40) than that of the younger generation (25).<br>
I regard this as a medical fact, and I can't bother myself to look for sources at this time. Suffice to say, I learned this from a persuasive lecturer in a Physiology/Biology class.<br>
However, it is also a fact that the older you get the more likely are you to acquire diseases in your joints, as well as general deterioration of the quality of the joint-cartilage. Thus, the triarii should have excellent close-combat skills, but should be slower moving, and slower at wielding a strike with their hastae or gladivs. Their stamina should be higher than usual.<br>
I totally agree with the aspect of each their respective morales.<br>
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It's good to see so many patrons from the TW-forums <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=shigawire>Shigawire</A> at: 8/19/03 11:38 am<br></i>
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This is my first trip to this forum, I came across it as I was wondering how the C was spelled in the time of the Roman Empire. I found numerous sources that suggested C and Q were only uttered with a K sound. So the "Sæsar" pronounciation we have today is a bit incorrect as it is closer to "Kaisr"/"Kaisar" - and a name is a name. I personally dislike the constant translation/morphing of the names of historical people. It's ok to name our newly born children using chronologically mutated names. But, when we refer to a historical figure, I think we should treat their names with respect and at least try to utter it and type it the way it was back. Example, there was a 19 year old warrior leader called Jehanne d'Arc. The name she carries eventually mutated to Jeanne in France, and in English it was translated into Joan. This historical character's name was mutated as well as the generic name.<br>
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Enough of that. I must say I really liked Jenny's suggestion about the relationships between TRIARII, HASTATI and PRINCIPES in R:TW. Just like I would have said it myself -well I did in the LegionTWCenter forum, but not as concisely as this.<br>
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Quote:</em></strong><hr>Perhaps triarii will be the slowest, but best defensively, like spearmen, with the highest morale and armor. While hastati and principes will be faster, but hastati lack much armor and have lower morale, and principes have good armor and normal morale. And all will have an excellent attack, let's say, because the legion was always a straightforward meatgrinding machine.<br>
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Perhaps the hastati and principes could suffer a drop in morale if the triarii are too far out of "rescue" range.<hr><br>
<br>
Yes, the Triarii would be primarily spearmen as they carried the hastae as their primary weapon (no pilae), gladivs was always secondary to them. They were the oldest (35-40), they had the most experience from battles, but they had a lowered state of bodily physique - however, this affected their agility and joints, not as much the stamina. There is a popular contemporary misconception that the older men (or women) has a stamina (lounge capacity + heart capacity) that is much inferior to the younger ones. This is of course the case in our society, in which you MAY start getting lazy after 35-40 and start eating unhealthily and stop working out. This is not the case with the triarii, even if they rarely were used in combat (due to the hastati/principes winning), that doesn't change the fact that they had seen much more fighting previously as they were veteran principes once, and they would surely hone their skills in some training facilities daily - simply maintaining their hard-fought experience, like some anti-rust.<br>
And if this high state of workout is the case, I can assure you, the heart/lounge capacity is actually HIGHER in the veterans (35-40) than that of the younger generation (25).<br>
I regard this as a medical fact, and I can't bother myself to look for sources at this time. Suffice to say, I learned this from a persuasive lecturer in a Physiology/Biology class.<br>
However, it is also a fact that the older you get the more likely are you to acquire diseases in your joints, as well as general deterioration of the quality of the joint-cartilage. Thus, the triarii should have excellent close-combat skills, but should be slower moving, and slower at wielding a strike with their hastae or gladivs. Their stamina should be higher than usual.<br>
I totally agree with the aspect of each their respective morales.<br>
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It's good to see so many patrons from the TW-forums <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=shigawire>Shigawire</A> at: 8/19/03 11:38 am<br></i>
