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Religion and Re-enactment
#16
Since last year we always show a Imperial Cult ceremony on our events, usually together with the morning-renuntium. Flavius Promotus was so kind to work out the text for us, and he usually also takes part in it Big Grin
Christian K.

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#17
Greetings,
Quote:Salvete,

Our group does quite a lot of religious ceremonies.

http://www.romanarmy.net/Religion.htm

regards,
was it your group who did the Roman wedding ceremony at York Roman Festival, there was also a Mithraic ceremony, but I missed that.
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Arthes
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#18
Curiously, the tribunus at the Dura fresco is offering (what?) over an stylized (and very portable-looking) hourglass-shaped incense burner, not an altar.

Dura incense burner

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#19
Quote:Curiously, the tribunus at the Dura fresco is offering (what?) over an stylized (and very portable-looking) hourglass-shaped incense burner, not an altar. Aitor

Maybe he's just carrying this incense burner by a set of chains. In which
case, it could be a 'censor'. Doesn't Dura actually have remains of a
Church and a Synagogue? Being in Syria, it would be in the right place
for a censor. I believe they were used quite a lot in Byzantine times in
this part of the Empire.

Ambrosius
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#20
Ambrosius,
Have you looked at the pic? :roll:
Moreover, it is a pagan sacrifice on a Third century AD fresco...

Aitor
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#21
Arthes, Yes it was our group at York doing the wedding blessing. We have performed three weddings up til now. the first and largest was performed in the amphitheatre at Caerleon. There were Roman musicians playing throughout a wonderfully researched ceremony followed by a large feast and then a torchlit procession into the town. It was featured in Skirmish magazine and on BBC television. Some photos of this event are here...

http://www.romanarmy.net/photos.htm

The pictures on the link I posted previously were from Carlisle when our Primus Pilus, (Len Morgan) was married-off to a young daughter of our auxiliary decanus! Lucky old goat!

Travis,
The altar is made of wood, with a bronze focus. but still heavy! There's also a guy here in the UK who makes small votive type altars about 50cm tall with authentic carving of your choice. I have been trying to track him down! This would be slightly more portable!
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#22
That wedding looks very thorough. Where did you find the ceremony described? Not all in one place apparently.
Richard Campbell
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#23
Quote:Curiously, the tribunus at the Dura fresco is offering (what?) over an stylized (and very portable-looking) hourglass-shaped incense burner, not an altar.

Dura incense burner

Aitor

The Latin term would probably be candelabrum, but yes, it basically is a portable terracotta incense altar. In the E. Mediterranean there are tons of these things in bronze and terracotta.

Ask Julia of Venetian Cat if she could make one. I bet she could.

BTW - not exactly off-topic, just sorta. I am trying to get a kit together circa 450-580, and I would like a period pilgrimage flask, which were important as apotropaic devices.

Is anyone else interested in a pilgrimage flask? I am trying to get a bunch of people to buy them so that we can get a group discout.

Check out the thread here:

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=6149
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#24
Quote:Travis,
The altar is made of wood, with a bronze focus. but still heavy! There's also a guy here in the UK who makes small votive type altars about 50cm tall with authentic carving of your choice. I have been trying to track him down! This would be slightly more portable!

Yeah, but it looks like stone, and I that's what I meant. A stone altar would never be moved (at last I don't think so!) but they were very common. I remember being at Beth Shean in Israel and the site (Scythopolis) was just littered with them. Wish I had pictures. Same with Jerash in Jordan. Yours looks very authentic BTW.

Nice stuff.
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#25
Hi Aitor,
Quote:Have you looked at the pic? :roll:
Moreover, it is a pagan sacrifice on a Third century AD fresco...

Oh sure. But the church and synagogue at Dura are the same date,
and we know elements of the army had been Christian pre-4thc. And
this was the part of the Empire they'd most likely exist. All I could see
on the pic was the top half of the burner, but I realise now the worn paint that would form the lower half. Confusedhock:

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#26
Quote:Ask Julia of Venetian Cat if she could make one. I bet she could.

BTW - not exactly off-topic, just sorta. I am trying to get a kit together circa 450-580, and I would like a period pilgrimage flask, which were important as apotropaic devices.

Is anyone else interested in a pilgrimage flask? I am trying to get a bunch of people to buy them so that we can get a group discout.

Were you thinking of St. Menas flasks? Yeah, I could go for one. 8)

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#27
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tlclark:1zfpzmri Wrote:Were you thinking of St. Menas flasks? Yeah, I could go for one. 8)

Ambrosius

Absolutely, with the two crouching camels. I have pictures of several and I posted some on the marketplace site.

[Image: pilgrimage_flask2.jpg]

Please go tell her if you want one. Right now she's quoting 100 dollars US for one, which is a fair price but just too much on my budget. I'm hoping we can get enough interest we can get a group discount.

Travis
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#28
Here's a pic from our imperial cult ceremony:
[Image: ImerialCult.jpg]
Christian K.

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#29
Quote:Here's a pic from our imperial cult ceremony:

Cool!

Looks like 2nd-3rd C. Who's the emperor?

Please explain.
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#30
Quote:Here's a pic from our imperial cult ceremony
Nice picture.
(When are you folk going to update your site again? I am dying to see the other pictures from 2005!)
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