tribune helmet from Thrace?

[markusaurelius]

Unless they have found a huge hoard of helmets that look identical it is a fake IMO. This is the third exact one I've seen. With a variety of colors for a "patina".

Too bad......

[Tarbicus]

Robinson classified this as the Italic A, found at Herculaneum.

Do you know if anyone makes one? Preferably cheaper than Feldon...

Sorry Jef, I don't. Take a look at Terry Nix's site though:
[url:14xhjhht]http://www.niximperial.com[/url]
He has a selection of the Hollywood attics, but you might find the consul's helmet particularly interesting. Sadly, I think it's cast. :?
[url:14xhjhht]http://www.niximperial.com/nixp03g.html[/url]

[Antonius Lucretius]

Alas, Toni Feldon, like Ratsdorf, Simkins and others --several of them from Eastern Europe-- is a master armourer, so his prices are in accordance...

[Tarbicus]

Alas, Toni Feldon, like Ratsdorf, Simkins and others --several of them from Eastern Europe-- is a master armourer, so his prices are in accordance...

You mean made far too well to be at all authentic and way overpriced? :wink:

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

true Nix has a lovely consular helmet!! its cast indeed which is a shame....

and also true gaivs, the neckplate is probably too long to be comfortable.. i saw a few other attic types with shorter neckplates..... which also looked nice to me.....

if i would want to portray a high ranking officer i would personally go for any cavalry sports helmet type first.... then the autun helmet, and/ or chalcidic or attic greek ones... and last but not least the nix type!

M.VIB.M

[FAVENTIANVS]

[size=200:1sqi6i82]If it comes from ebay, then it's fake, 4 sure!!![/size]

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

not always.

in this case... yes.......

M.VIB.M.

[Crispvs]

I would label this helmet a fake on the basis if the line of the lower rim at the front and sides. On every genuine Roman helmet I can think of the cheek guards hinges are at the same hight at the lower edge of the browband, meaning that the cheek guards are attached at that point. On this helmet, the lower rim has been extended down to the point where the cheek guards are attached. This is most obvious in the second photo Jef posted up. I can think of no genuine helmet which exhibits this feature. However, I can think of a number of Hollywood versions which do, including those featured in the Life of Brian, which I think makes this fake quite funny really. :lol:

Crispvs

[Uwe Bahr]

Salve Crispvs,

surely this comes from the so called Praetorian Relief in the Louvre museum, where all helmets are depicted in this way. There You can even see little decorative symbols at the extensions above of the hinges. The problem, all heads with helmets in the foreground are said to be reconstructions from the 19Th century. But the one helmet in the background looking to the left that is only flat on the stone shows the same extension. I think this relief is the major model for all those Hollywood helmets. Interesting is that the helmet on the relief with the Dacian or German fighter does not show this extension. You can find the whole discussion that has been lead about this topic in RAT and some photos here:

link from old RAT

Greets - Uwe

[RUBICON]

definitely a fake!

it looks amzingly like the other three sent through as originals on ebay.

Cheers

[Arthes]

Greetings,
I wish these guys would stop churning out fakes...as there is the real possiblity that one day an oddment of a helm will be classed as 'fake' and will be a real 'find' something that has not been seen before, or in the flesh so to speak.
Aside from the obvious reasons they do it - financial gain - do these guys think it highly hilarious to join the ranks of con, spam and virus merchants who use the internet to rip off, upset and anger people...
Grrrrrrh :evil:
regards
Arthes

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

considering all the other con artists who are using the internet willy-nilly for illicit gain, probably! :evil:

[RUBICON]

That is the worry. One day a real find will surface and due to the constant appearance of fakes, we will overlook it as a fake as well.

It is disheartening...nothing inspires me more than looking at the photos of museum pieces and imagining who and when they were used and the history of events these pieces could tell us

[Arthes]

Greetings,

...nothing inspires me more than looking at the photos of museum pieces and imagining who and when they were used and the history of events these pieces could tell us

that is exactly how I feel, if those things could talk and tell us about their owners - if I see a helm, for instance, I immediately wonder about the person who wore it and what they looked like :roll:
regards
Arthes

[RUBICON]

*Edited due to rule violation- link removed, pictures added*


Seeing we are discussing fakes, what do you make of this?

The bronze handles throw me....amazingly in good condition considering museum pieces arent this good