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late roman hat, Pileus
#1
well, how did i do. its a tad on the tall side but i kinda like it. i took the picture infront of a small mirror so the back could be seen. sorry about the lighting. thought the one picture maks me look like a russian hit man Wink comments?

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#2
Chuck, you must have attached wrong pics here, they clearly show Rasputin after some vodka :wink: !

Seriously, I think too that the late roman hat would have been a bit deeper than in the surviving sculptures/ coins. Maybe the ruling class did wear a more fashionable shallower model but the troops must have used a deeper and more practical / warm one...
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#3
Quote: thought the one picture maks me look like a russian hit man Wink
Well.. both do, actually.

It's a bit too high for my liking, but that's just a fashion statement. :wink: It looks good.
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#4
would you believe me if i said my head almost touches the top of it?
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#5
Quote:would you believe me if i said my head almost touches the top of it?
Not for a moment. Big Grin
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#6
close-fitting, brimless hat worn by the ancient Romans and copied from the Greek sailor's hat called the pilos. In Roman times the head was generally left uncovered, but commoners and freed slaves sometimes wore the felt pileus.

The hat was again popular during the Renaissance, especially in Italy, when it was square or rounded and made of black or red velvet or felt.
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#7
Quote:The hat was again popular during the Renaissance, especially in Italy, when it was square or rounded and made of black or red velvet or felt.

???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.
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Quote:???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.

Ignore him, he's fond of using Wikipedia instead of books. Cry
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#9
Quote:???????????????? ummm like the hat i am wearing here? its wool. and can be found in a lot of paintings throughout the continent during the 15th century.

Ignore him Chuck, he's fond of using Wikipedia instead of books. Cry
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#10
Robert or Chuck,

In your research have you been able to determine what type of lining these hats had, if any? And are there any known surviving examples anywhere, such like the felt hats shown in Graham Sumners (sp) book on Roman clothing?

Thanks in advance!
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#11
Quote:Robert or Chuck,
In your research have you been able to determine what type of lining these hats had, if any? And are there any known surviving examples anywhere, such like the felt hats shown in Graham Summers (sp) book on Roman clothing?

Sumner. :wink:
And from recollection I'd say there were no surviving examples, no. Cry
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#12
Just wondering. Smile

Thanks reguardless! (sorry Mr. Sumner...)
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#13
ya i dont have any liner in mine. its just a width of material that is folded on iteself and the both the sides are attached to the circle top
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#14
Looks good to me, a bit high for my taste, but good.
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#15
Robert wrote:

Quote:Sumner.
And from recollection I'd say there were no surviving examples, no.

Thanks Robert, for a surviving example see 'Arms and Armour of the Imperial Roman Soldier', by D'Amato and Sumner, forthcoming.
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