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PHOTOS-One more helmet for the database...
#1
I never pay much attention to it, but there is one bronze conical helmet in my town´s armoury Museum, dated V Cent. B.C. Probably bought to an anticuarian, so it may be untraceable or a fake, but when I can have some photos, I´ll send them to you. It´s likely it came from an early century private collection, as the most part of the museum. Usually they have only three or four lines of profile. :? and most of the atributions and datations of the museums are dubious...
if someone can give me photos of drawings of this sort of helmets I´ll be able to identify it (Unable by the moment, my search had not results...).
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
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[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#2
I'm curious to see photos of the helmet Tongue

Greets,

Decebalus/Andreas Gagelmann
Andreas Gagelmann
Berlin, Germany
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#3
Well, this is a sketch:
It´s plain, with two holes at the left and two on the right.It´s symetrical from left to right but not back /ahead (I´m not very sure what´s what still)
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#4
Not the "bent" part. It goes down and then curves outwards a while, and then goes upwards, all in a single curve, not going inside, or benting down before finishing, as the example. It´s just like the drawing (Paintbrush!) that´s all i can say. This week I´ll try to take some photos of it (and the assirian, etruscan and roman section...I hope you´ll find some of interest. perhaps I´ll post them in a off-topic or Rome´s enemies post, only for the museum´s photos.)
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#5
[size=200:glp4horw]Bingo![/size]

Yes, with, two little holes at the sides, I suppose for fastening (mmm. I´m not sure about this word.Thing-to-tie-yourself-to-your-helmet, as Leonardo of Quirm would have say...)
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#6
Yes! Much like the same...
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#7
Blech! Pilos helmets... fugly as all get out. Wink
Michael D. Hafer [aka Mythos Ruler, aka eX | Vesper]
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#8
I fail to see what was so exciting about this kind of helmet, other than it was reasonably inexpensive to produce in a massive scale.
[size=75:wtt9v943]Susanne Arvidsson

I have not spent months gathering Hoplites from the four corners of the earth just to let
some Swedish pancake in a purloined panoply lop their lower limbs off!
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#9
I vote we name this one the Chico Marx hat.
Pecunia non olet
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#10
I was in doubt between Sancho Panza and Chico´s hats...
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#11
I think the poor period of Spartan warfare should be banned from re-enactment....... :twisted: :lol:
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#12
This is the museum´s "profile" of this helmet: :evil:

Quote:From the auction at SOTHEBY in London, 26 Nov 1969.
Greek conical bronze helmet.
In good conditions.
Chronology: V cent. BC

If anyone has the profile from that auction, or where I can found it, thanks! :?

Photos will come when I found the memory card adaptor or the wire of the camera, what happens first... :oops:
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#13
Here (at last) the photos!
Helmet from Alava´s Armoury Museum (Vitoria, Spain)
I havent got more info avalaible, sorry. Camera is old only 1.3 Mp :oops:
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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#14
Very interesting (though ugly).
Can you tell me the direction or web of this Armoury Museum? perhaps, when I come to Vitoria, i'll see it.

In the archeological museum of Madrid there is good material too, last time I saw a good collection of greek vase painting and a well conserved Bell Cuirass.

Regards
"paraita karam hamiçiyam haya mana naiy gaubataiy avam jata"
"Go forth and crush that rebellious army, wich does not call itself mine!" King Darius at Behistun

Vishtaspa/Inyigo
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#15
Big Grin of course!

+ info of the museum

It´s in English, so the rest of the people at RAT can use it, OK?

Sadly, this is one of the best info on Internet about it... Cry
-This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how
sheep´s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.
[Image: escudocopia.jpg]Iagoba Ferreira Benito, member of Cohors Prima Gallica
and current Medieval Martial Arts teacher of Comilitium Sacrae Ensis, fencing club.
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