01-20-2008, 05:26 PM
Ok, lets put aside Huns and Avars, I do not know as much about them to debate this. But Sumerians were for the long time my main history interested, so here I can debate.
for your link - there is only one text in english, which tells nothing new to me (that ancient sumerian legends are closely related to the Old Testament), other texts are in hungarian, I dont understand, so I cannot read read it.
BUT (yes, there is a BIG BUT here) - all these teories which put Hungarian and Sumerian origin together are claimed by Hungarian scietists. Other scientists are rather...sceptical.
We have more teories. Same teories as these hungarian relate Sumerian language to Baskic language or Dravid language. Or even Etruscan (which is rather funny, because we know almost nothing about etruscan)
And there are some other hungarian teories, which are making from proto-hungarian language almost mother to all european and middle east languages.
Many of the grammatical features of Sumerian are attested in other living languages outside of the Indo-European family to which English belongs.
In the respective vocabularies of any two languages there are often words which are similar in form, meaning and sound. However, similar words with similar meanings do NOT prove that languages are related. It may point to a possible relationship; you would still need to examine the origin of each and every word in order to be certain that the similarity is not due to chance or to other factors such as borrowings or native compounding
This is by no means disrespectful to Magyar people - I know that they have great culture, great history and they are very proud people...and my nation have been with them in one state for several hundred years. They have my deep respect... ...but keep it real.
(ah, and sorry for OT - this is really far from my original avar helmet topic)
for your link - there is only one text in english, which tells nothing new to me (that ancient sumerian legends are closely related to the Old Testament), other texts are in hungarian, I dont understand, so I cannot read read it.
BUT (yes, there is a BIG BUT here) - all these teories which put Hungarian and Sumerian origin together are claimed by Hungarian scietists. Other scientists are rather...sceptical.
We have more teories. Same teories as these hungarian relate Sumerian language to Baskic language or Dravid language. Or even Etruscan (which is rather funny, because we know almost nothing about etruscan)
And there are some other hungarian teories, which are making from proto-hungarian language almost mother to all european and middle east languages.
Many of the grammatical features of Sumerian are attested in other living languages outside of the Indo-European family to which English belongs.
In the respective vocabularies of any two languages there are often words which are similar in form, meaning and sound. However, similar words with similar meanings do NOT prove that languages are related. It may point to a possible relationship; you would still need to examine the origin of each and every word in order to be certain that the similarity is not due to chance or to other factors such as borrowings or native compounding
This is by no means disrespectful to Magyar people - I know that they have great culture, great history and they are very proud people...and my nation have been with them in one state for several hundred years. They have my deep respect... ...but keep it real.
(ah, and sorry for OT - this is really far from my original avar helmet topic)
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