Magyarok/Magyars

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Hello.

Although the Hungarian folk did not fight with Rome already, but our ancestors did this already before us. :lol: In this the topic, I would like to share all information with you , which is connected to the Hungarian history what he may be with an effect onto. Than I wrote it down early the Sumerian, Scythian, Hun language or culture accurate to recognizing him simply on the Hungarian language and the straight road passes through a culture.
Would like it, in this onto I help to be modest English knowledge allows this.It was taught to me, that the Hungarians derive from the Finnish-Ugrian family. I do not believe this categorical based on new evidences already.

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Why not Asian the Hungarians?



http://www.imninalu.net/myths-Huns.htm

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History

An additive from the origin of the Hungarian ethnonym and from his meaning
minyaklari* - 2008.04.23 14:16


Cey-Bert Róbert Gyula: The hawk man returns (Püski, 2006.) took from his book based on a quotation





- The first big problem, which it was necessary to solve,, what was the Hungarians' old ethnonym how because I presupposed that the 5. and the 8. did not label the Hungarians' ancestors with the Hungarian ethnonym between a century - magyarázta Tsering láma.

- In Old Turkish the gar*, gor*, gur* ethnonym endings the folk word it was reported, so in the names like that, than it Uighur, the bulgar*, kongur*, kasgar*, the word meaning the folk is in him. The Hungarian ethnonym gyar* him ending on a level the folk word nominates it. Onto my big disappointment I did not find the Hungarian ethnonym in one single writing.

When the Chineses occupied in 1950 Tibet, Ganden I got into a monastery, and since I dealt with history research, Ganden Tirpa, the monastery's head llama delegate with the repairing of the library's oldest documents and with his register. Between big memoranda written onto the oldest silk coils onto my joy the 6. and 7. from a century I found texts like that, that write down the Tibetans' campaigns in Central Asia, Góbi beyond a desert on areas, today's Kelet-in Turkesztán, Tarim in a pool.

The memoranda mentioned more neighbourhood folk, the Turk ones, the Uighurs, the tasgurokat* , the kongarokat*, the kasgarokat* and the hungarokat*.


According to the memoranda the hungarok* for the Huns' princely tribe the leszármazottai*, and they „gungaroknakâ€

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon

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"The Finno-Ugric prehistory was unacceptable always for the natural sciences because of this, since it Uralic - Finno-Ugrian - anthropology characters occurring at the Hungarians simply 0,06%."

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Sir John Bowring (1792-1872) origin English text from Hungarian language

“The Magyar language goes far back. It developed in a very peculiar manner and its structure reaches back to times when most of the now spoken European languages did not even exist. It is a language which developed steadily and firmly in itself, and in which there are logic and mathematics with the adaptability and malleability of strength and chords. The Englishman should be proud that his language indicates an epic of human history. One can show forth its origin; and alien layers can be distinguished in it, which gathered together during the contacts with different nations. Whereas the Hungarian language is like a rubble-stone, consisting of only one piece, on which the storms of time left not a scratch. It's not a calendar that adjusts to the changes of the ages. It needs no one, it doesn't borrow, does no buckstering, and doesn't give or take from anyone. This language is the oldest and most glorious monument of national sover¬eignty and mental independence. What scholars cannot solve, they ignore. In philology it's the same way as in archeology. The floors of the old Egyptian temples, which were made our of only one rock, can't be explained. No one knows where they came from, or from which mountain the wondrous mass was taken. How they were transported and lifted to the top of the temples. The genuineness of the Hungarian language is a phenomenon much more wondrous than this. He who solves it shall be analyzing the Divine secret; in fact the first thesis of this secret:
'In the beginning there was Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.â€

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http://arpad.org/pages.php?&menuid=55

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History of the Huns.

Early in the threehundriedts B.C. ..there lived a group of herdsmen in the Inner-Mongolia area. China. Their name was " Shian Yuen " This is the place where the Huns originated from. In the area of the Wolf mountain and the Danging Mountain. Inner-Mongolia, the Huns had built their civilization and prosperity. The political center of the Huns was in Manton City. Today this place is situated in Wunan County. The first slave system was born here in North China also. In the year 59 B.C. an inner or civil war broke out. The Huns were divided into five parts. Years later the Huns were divided into two parts. Northern Huns and Southern Huns. The head of the northern Huns was Huhansing and the surrender to Han. The head of the northern Huns was Zhighi. who settled at Illy, Yin Tan. Later west of lake Balkash. Around 63 B.C. Zhighi was killed by General Cheng Tang of Han Forces. In this way the Northern Huns were dissolved.

After the Southern Huns surrendered to Han. Huhanshing asked to marry a princess. The Emperor let a beauty marry Huhanshing. The friendly relationship lasted until Wang Mang took the throne. The relationship with Wang Mang, but had been reconciliated by Han, until the East Han Dynasty was established. In 48 B.C. inner war broke out between the Huns once again. They were split into two parts at this time . Huhanshing's grandson surrender to Han namely the Southern Huns. The Northern Huns were remaining just North of the Southern Huns..................

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...................Moving West

Since 48 A.D. the Northern Huns had been fighting with the Southern Huns and Han. In 89 A.D. East Han sent General Doushian against the Northern Huns. The Northern Huns were defeated. Some 200.000 surrender to Han ans some 100.000 surrender to Shiampi. The rest moved West. The westward moving group passed the Jing Hui Mountain, Balkash Lake, Aral Sea, and the Caspian Sea. They defeated the Roman Emperor abnd strirred all of Europe. The Northern Huns went on fighting toward the West and occupied Danhue after more than 280 years. In 896 A.D. Hungary was established. The first king was Arpad.


Wang Zhaojn

The Hungarians often say that their father was Huns and their mother was Chinese. This story comes from the story of Han's beauty, Wang Zhaojn, who married Huhanshing the leader of the Huns. It had been a very moving story know to every Chinese, that a Han's beauty who had grown up in the rich palace and had gone to the wild grassland as a " peace missioner "..................

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........After Wang Zhaojn married Huhanshing they had a son. When Huhanshing died, Wang Zhaojn wrote to the Han Emperor and asked for permission to return /home/.The Han Emperor did not approve and ordered her to live by the Hunst customs. Thereforce according to the customs of the Huns. , she married Huhanshing's first son from a former marriage and they had ten daughter.

The appearance of the Huns was different at the beginning of the early ancient ages and by the middle of the ancient age. In the early ancient ages the Huns had white skin high nose bridge and were hairy. In the middle ages, because of the marriages between the Hans and Huns, the Huns became yellow and get low nosebridge and broad forehead. The Hungarian scholars said that although the Hungarian is the offspring of the Huns, the appearance of the Hungarians is different from the Huns in the early ancient ages. Abaut the name " Hungary ", HUN" came from Huns and " gary" - means to place to live -. In Chinese , Hun said to be Hun-nu. In the Greek History Huns were called " HUNNER" - one can observe the similarity between " NU " and " NER " ..........................

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon

Treveri Gaul, this strays into modern 20th Century politics. Please take care not to go there again or the thread will be locked.

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Vale Tarbiscus.

I say thank you for the warning. Many people do not know it that 1920.04.20 a nation's catastrophe which while in the Kárpát basin is a Hungarian edge in will not go into oblivion. Not not never....

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................... The territory of the Huns covered Asia and Europe. It's cultura was composed mainly of the Northern Grassland and some from Han, Greece, and Iran. This was also proved by the Russian archeologists in Mongolia by their discoveries there in 1924.

In the 1000's B.C. China lived in her Bronze Age Period. In the meantime along the river Dnieper there was another Bronze period that had developed. The historians call it " Scytha Culture ". This cultura transfered to Siberia and Mongolia. Finally, the Southern Huns became Hanizes and the Northern Huns went into to Greek and Roman cultural circle.

Hungarians an Chinese are blood-related nationalities. /?/ The Hungarian language has many similarities with the language of the Huns but has even more in common with Chinese. One reason why the Emperor of the Han Dynasty, Ghenghis Khan and other Chinese emperors went to Hungary is because of this. Their soldiers were mainly Hans and Huns and many of them remained there and never returned. Hungary has many common customs with the Huns such as: pray to the Sun in the morning, to the Moon in the evening. The left seat is regarded as the upper place ..etc. "


Chen Moon Geum woman famous University of Peking the letter of a historian's professor from Huns

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To the letter so much to add it would be my truth that the genetic examination done inside the Hungarian nationalities did not support the Asian consanguinity with the Chineses.

The result was surprising. The genetics of the KUN tribe living on Hungary's middle is with an Iranian origin. The genetics of Hungarians living on Hungary West county, is with a Persian origin.