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Persian trireme found?
#1
http://www.payvand.com/news/05/jul/1169.html
This is a very interesting article. Does anyone have more information and perhaps a model of the reconstructed ship?
khairete
Giannis

PS. Though irrelevant to this thread,here's a vase of what must be persian troops. http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/Afri ... emenid.jpg The name of the image is African-levy-Achaemenind, and i don't have a clue where and when it was found.
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#2
And one more article.
http://www.fravahr.org/spip.php?breve86
Seems this is another ship found.
Giannis K. Hoplite
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#3
Quote:http://www.payvand.com/news/05/jul/1169.html
This is a very interesting article.

Sounds mildly chauvinistic. The "Persians" and "Iranians" did not built ships, they completely relied on the fleets and maritime know-how of their Phoenician, Greek and Egyptian vassals. Thus, these archaeologists are actually reconstructing a vessel of one of these subject peoples.
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
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#4
The other ship is a merchant vessel and the first one does not sound like a classical trireme either. A model of 120 cm long and 40cm wide would have a length-width proportion of 3:1. A 'navis longa' would be more in the region of 6:1.
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Jasper Oorthuys
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#5
Hmm, you're right Jasper,hadn't thought of this Sad
Stefan, I wouldn't mind if that ship was a trireme,whoever had possibly constructed it.
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#6
http://www.cais-soas.com/News/2004/august2004/17-08.htm
And yet another different article for a different expedition. I have not heard any results from this either.
Khairete
Giannis
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#7
Quote:Though irrelevant to this thread,here's a vase of what must be persian troops. http://www.payvand.com/news/07/mar/Afri ... emenid.jpg The name of the image is African-levy-Achaemenind, and i don't have a clue where and when it was found.
It was found in Athens and is now in the British Museum.
Quote:http://www.cais-soas.com/News/2004/august2004/17-08.htm
And yet another different article for a different expedition. I have not heard any results from this either.
It may be a hoax. The website is notorious for its propagandistic zeal, has a track record for copyright infringements and has in the past fraudulently claimed affiliation to the London School of Oriental and Asian Studies. This became so obvious, that it was even noticed by the Wikipedia (!): one of its founding members, who calls himself Shapur Suren-Pahlavi, got a well-deserved IP-ban. Wiki is not the only website to unmask this man (more...), who goes all the way to prove that the Shah's propaganda that Achaemenid Persia was something special, is right.

I found the fake translation of the Cyrus Cylinder (more... for the first time on that website. Finally, two interesting photos to prove the lack of quality of SOAS-CAIS. The secondone is a press release from the Iranian Heritage Organization, which was copied to the CAIS website (first one). Note that they have put the photo upside down.
Jona Lendering
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Quote:It may be a hoax. The website is notorious for its propagandistic zeal, has a track record for copyright infringements and has in the past fraudulently claimed affiliation to the London School of Oriental and Asian Studies. This became so obvious, that it was even noticed by the Wikipedia (!): one of its founding members, who calls himself Shapur Suren-Pahlavi, got a well-deserved IP-ban. Wiki is not the only website to unmask this man (more...), who goes all the way to prove that the Shah's propaganda that Achaemenid Persia was something special, is right.

Looks like my gut feeling was quite on the mark then. Working at Wikipedia helps developing a sixth sense for subtle historical and ethnic propaganda. Big Grin
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
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