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Lorica squamata- in a French biscuit tin....
#1
Again from the Yale collection at http://ecatalogue.art.yale.edu/ , and bizarrely still in the French biscuit tin from the original excavation at Dura Europas , a lorica squamata. It seems still largely in one piece.....

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#2
:lol: :lol: :lol:
....the 'ancient' biscuit tin is now so old, it is of some historical interest in itself.
The fact that it is still in there, and seemingly still with dirt/dust from the site, quite possibly means it hasn't been looked at since it was 'packed'... Confusedhock: Confusedhock:

Imagine what a proper examination would tell us about construction, materials etc....there's a project for any of our knowledgeable American members..... Smile D
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#3
But who ate all the biscuits?
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#4
They have even an sketch of the suspect! Confusedhock:

Now, goung back to the topic, recently, in one (small, but lovely) museum in Efringen-Kirchen, Baden , Germany, there was an exhibition called "From Wotan zum Christus".

The had some original alamannic fíbula boxes made of 30´s cigarrette boxes! :lol:

Also a razors box called "Diana" :lol:

Going more closer to the topic AGAIN, :roll: :

Really interesting, y hope they will have time and patiennce to take it out carefully, I hope it´s still in part odf the original shape Confusedhock:
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#5
Thats quite amazing...im checking my biscuits from now on!
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#6
You gotta love archeology procedures from the 1930's. I have Hopkins' book on the Dura Europus excavations, and when they found the horse armor, they went and put it on a bedouin's horse to see what it looked like. Confusedhock: And then they took a picture.

I don't think this is the horse armor, so I'm wondering if this is one of the armors off the bodies they found in the collapsed mine. It may have been described already.
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#7
Apparently they're still in business

Quote:Olibet Biscuits
Headquarters location: 65B Rue la Fayette 75009 Paris 9
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#8
I managed to get my hands on a copy of Simon James' "Excavations at Dura-Europos 1928-1937 Final Report VII: The Arms and Armour and other Military Equipment" (British Museum Press, 2004)

And the number above doesn't seem to match any of those given in the text.

How big is that tin? Does anyone have the dimensions?

I ask because there are mentions of a 'very fine' copper alloy scale armors, the scales being 6-7mm high by 5-6mm wide and .25mm thick. Not big stuff. Very fine work indeed.
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#9
Personally, I prefer the Lorica Segmenta
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Ye gods- that's just crazy. I can't believe that Olibet biscuits had so much copper in them that they turned green after 75 years LOL
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Haha very funny.
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#12
No doubt the French will want their tin back as a cultural treasure?... (Oh, I shouldn't have said that...)

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Quote:when they found the horse armor, they went and put it on a bedouin's horse to see what it looked like.

My fellow students in conservation would call that behaviour, typical of an archaeologist :lol:

It isn't easy to be an archaeologist amongt conservationists. We aren't exactly popular. :lol: But most archaeologists aren't purely evil, just ignorant sometimes when it comes to the preservation of the actual artefacts...
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The scales at Vindolanda are small, that size or smaller even......
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Hey Marcus, why would they call that typical of an archaeologist?
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