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Plumbata
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ambrosius:1fdx7diw Wrote:Well yes and no... and no. 8) All projectiles with a metal head and a wooden shaft will be front-heavy, and so land at an angle unless being shot/thrown at extreme point-blank range. That goes for arrows and pila as well as plumbatae.

Not all projectiles with a metal head are therefore point heavy - some arrows are not, most javelins that I held were not, and most stabbing spears certainly are not (before you correct me that these aren't projectiles - yes, they are described as being thrown regularly).

I think you'll find that they are. Weigh any of them at the mid-way point
and they'll be front-heavy. Even the smallest metal arrowheads will
outweigh the horn nock and feather fletchings at the back (though the
difference will be less, here, than with the heavier head of a javelin or
a spear, obviously. Try throwing a modern athletics javelin, and the
metal head will give it a downward trajectory at the end of its flight.
That's the whole idea of its design. The IAA don't want javelins flying
on a completely flat trajectory and skidding-off the grass to spear some
official or spectator. On the other hand, they do want the javelin to
stick in the ground, where it can A.) Do no damage beyond its point of
impact and B.) make a clear mark in the grass which can be measured.

The same principle goes in warfare. The primary function of the head
of any projectile (or spear) is to punch through the target, rather than
get blunted or split, as the bare wooden shaft might, on its own. But
with projectiles, especially, you desire them to be slightly front-heavy,
as this prevents them tumbling in flight and not hitting the target with
the point first. The fletchings on an arrow or a plumbata also help to
keep the flight straight, by acting ar rudders in the air and even by
imparting spin (arrow fletchings do this) like the rifling of a gun barrel.
You only have to see what happens to a cylindrical bullet fired from a
non-rifled barrel to realise how easy it is for projectiles to tumble or spin
(end-over -end) in mid-flight and either hit the target side-on or fly-off at an angle and miss it completely. So if you were just throwing a sharpened stick at the enemy, it coudn't even be guaranteed to fly straight. In fact, the act of sharpening a wooden stave would actually remove some of the weight from the point and make it 'back-heavy', meaning that it was
far more likely to tumble in flight or simply drop its tail way before it
reached the target and hit the taget side-on or even back-on. Confusedhock:

Quote: The difference between arrows and spears (hastae) on the one hand, and pila and plumbatae on the other, is that they are weighted. This weight gives them different qualities, and much more force is put on the joints betwen head and shaft.

They are all weighted. The plumbata most of all and the arrow least.
The arrow needs less of a weight in its head to keep it flying straight
as it has the added benefit of the fletchings, which, coupled with its
higher speed of flight, give it a large 'rudder' effect and a longitudinal
spin which prevents 'end-over-end' spin (the thing we're trying to avoid).
The javelin requires a larger weight in its head, to keep it flying front-
first, as it doesn't have the fletchings. The plumbata is an interesting
case. How do you throw yours? By holding it at the back of the shaft,
behind you, and pointing backwards? Right. And you fling it (either
over- or under-arm - it doesn't matter which) past your head with your
arm passing through 180 degrees. Thus the plumbata is also passing
through 180 degrees. You are thus not only giving it lateral motion but
imparting rotational kinetic energy to it. That is, if it did not have
the lead weight to over-ride its rotational momentum upon leaving
your hand, it would continue to spin, end-over-end in mid flight, losing
speed and either dropping short of the target or hitting the target at any angle other than head-on. Notice that slight 'wobble' as it first leaves
your hand and settles into its trajectory? That's the lead weight kicking-
in and correcting the rotational spin, which would otherwise cause the
problem mentioned above. 8)

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ambrosius:1fdx7diw Wrote:It doesn't really matter what angle they land at, though, as long as the force of impact is straight through the head and into the shaft.
And this is exactly what happens with a plumbata - when the head hits the target (or the ground), the weight plus shaft will 'overtake' the head, thereby forcing it to bend or break. A well-poored weight should protect the shafted as well as the tanged joint from that force.

No, no. That's the point (the metal one Big Grin ). So long as the projectile hits squarely (point-first) then the impact goes directly through the axis of the head and the shaft, lengthways, just how it's designed to do. The problem only comes when it hits at an 'angle-off' and imparts a lateral strain on
the joint between head and shaft. That's when it's liable to break. As we
discussed with tanged versus socketed heads, both will direct the force
of impact straight througn the head and shaft on target and force the
two together. But a slight 'angle-off' on the impact will tend to split the
shaft with the tanged head, while the socketed head actually provides
a uniform force on the shaft and compresses it inside the socket, which
helps to prevent the wood splitting. :wink:

Quote: I would very much like to test if tanged shaft break sooner than socketed shafts.

So would I :twisted:

Quote:So far however, I assume...


Confusedhock: You should never do that. 8)


Quote:Sure, but a plumbata is so much heavier than an arrow that the extra weight surely makes up for being slower.

Kinetic energy is proportional to the weight of a projectile but proportional
to the SQUARE of the velocity. E=m x v squared. (That's exactly
the same as Einstein's famous equasion, without the 'BANG' :lol: )

Ambrosius/Mike[/quote]
"Feel the fire in your bones."
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Plumbata - by Anonymous - 04-02-2003, 06:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by richard - 04-02-2003, 07:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-02-2003, 10:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Guest - 04-03-2003, 08:56 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 04-03-2003, 01:05 PM
Re: plumbata - by Guest - 04-03-2003, 01:27 PM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 04-03-2003, 01:37 PM
Re: plumbata - by richard - 04-03-2003, 05:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-03-2003, 09:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 04-04-2003, 09:44 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-29-2003, 01:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 07-29-2003, 05:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-15-2003, 05:45 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-16-2003, 05:27 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-16-2003, 07:45 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-16-2003, 06:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-18-2003, 02:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 08-18-2003, 02:42 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-18-2003, 04:10 PM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-18-2003, 05:52 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-18-2003, 10:13 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 08-20-2003, 11:31 AM
Re: plumbata - by Guest - 08-20-2003, 04:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-20-2003, 10:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-29-2003, 03:12 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 08-29-2003, 03:52 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-29-2003, 06:06 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-29-2003, 12:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-29-2003, 01:37 PM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-30-2003, 04:11 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-30-2003, 07:41 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-30-2003, 07:47 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Anonymous - 08-30-2003, 09:55 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-30-2003, 01:37 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Jasper Oorthuys - 08-30-2003, 08:59 PM
Re: Plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 08-31-2003, 05:38 PM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-03-2003, 02:39 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-03-2003, 03:38 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-03-2003, 03:43 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-03-2003, 03:57 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-03-2003, 04:36 AM
Clay or not clay.... - by Richomeres - 09-05-2003, 12:45 PM
Clay or not clay? - by Anonymous - 09-07-2003, 01:21 AM
Re: Plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 09-07-2003, 04:52 PM
Re: Plumbata - by drsrob - 09-07-2003, 05:07 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-08-2003, 10:08 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-09-2003, 02:52 AM
Re: Plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 09-09-2003, 02:05 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-09-2003, 10:06 PM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-10-2003, 02:34 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-10-2003, 02:52 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Guest - 09-12-2003, 08:47 AM
Plumbata - by Anonymous - 09-13-2003, 12:01 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-24-2003, 05:32 AM
Re: Plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 09-24-2003, 12:20 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-24-2003, 09:48 PM
Re: plumbata - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 10-23-2003, 01:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-24-2003, 05:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 10-27-2003, 08:36 AM
Re: plumbata - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 10-27-2003, 10:10 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 10-27-2003, 11:18 AM
De Rebus Bellicis - by Robert Vermaat - 12-04-2003, 03:34 PM
Plumbatae and shields - by Crispvs - 12-04-2003, 11:34 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 12-05-2003, 12:27 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 12-05-2003, 12:36 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Anonymous - 12-05-2003, 08:05 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 12-05-2003, 08:25 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Crispvs - 12-05-2003, 08:14 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 12-05-2003, 11:48 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Crispvs - 12-12-2003, 01:04 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 12-12-2003, 11:53 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Anonymous - 05-27-2004, 01:20 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 05-27-2004, 04:11 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by aitor iriarte - 05-28-2004, 05:12 AM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by Robert Vermaat - 05-29-2004, 09:57 PM
Re: Plumbatae and shields - by aitor iriarte - 05-30-2004, 07:28 AM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 06-01-2004, 01:39 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-04-2004, 10:55 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-04-2004, 10:57 PM
Comitatus and their Plumbata - by Anonymous - 06-08-2004, 05:31 PM
Staff Sling - by Mithras - 06-09-2004, 08:19 PM
Re: Staff Sling - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2004, 10:59 PM
Re: Staff Sling - by aitor iriarte - 06-10-2004, 07:21 AM
Re: plumbata - by Anonymous - 06-10-2004, 08:37 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-10-2004, 09:43 AM
Re: Staff Sling - by Mithras - 06-10-2004, 08:40 PM
Re: Staff Sling - by Robert Vermaat - 06-11-2004, 06:01 AM
Re: Staff Sling - by Mithras - 06-11-2004, 01:42 PM
Re: Staff Sling - by aitor iriarte - 06-11-2004, 04:13 PM
Re: Staff Sling - by Crispvs - 06-15-2004, 08:42 AM
Re: Staff Sling - by aitor iriarte - 06-15-2004, 08:56 AM
Re: Staff Sling - by Robert Vermaat - 06-15-2004, 12:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-28-2005, 05:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 09-28-2005, 06:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-21-2006, 07:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by Uwe Bahr - 01-23-2006, 02:01 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Dan Howard - 01-23-2006, 10:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-23-2006, 11:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-23-2006, 11:08 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-24-2006, 09:08 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 01-24-2006, 09:19 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-24-2006, 04:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Re: plumbata - by Dan Howard - 01-24-2006, 09:53 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 01-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-25-2006, 01:11 PM
Re: plumbata - by arklore70 - 01-25-2006, 01:17 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-25-2006, 02:01 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-25-2006, 02:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-25-2006, 05:19 PM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 01-26-2006, 06:29 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-26-2006, 09:01 AM
Re: plumbata - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 01-27-2006, 07:30 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 01-27-2006, 08:02 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 01-27-2006, 04:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-27-2006, 06:08 PM
A very weighty point - by ambrosius - 01-28-2006, 08:51 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2006, 12:53 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-28-2006, 01:02 PM
A leading question - by ambrosius - 01-28-2006, 05:00 PM
Re: A leading question - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2006, 11:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2006, 11:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-28-2006, 11:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-29-2006, 12:17 AM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-29-2006, 12:24 AM
Re: A leading question - by ambrosius - 01-29-2006, 11:44 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-02-2006, 07:11 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 02-04-2006, 01:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by Dan Howard - 02-06-2006, 10:15 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2006, 10:59 AM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 02-06-2006, 05:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2006, 06:15 PM
Re: plumbata - by arklore70 - 02-06-2006, 08:33 PM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 02-06-2006, 09:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-07-2006, 12:46 AM
Re: plumbata - by arklore70 - 02-07-2006, 01:01 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-07-2006, 01:08 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 02-07-2006, 08:36 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-07-2006, 05:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 02-07-2006, 06:31 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-19-2006, 08:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Barbara - 03-29-2006, 04:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-29-2006, 07:27 PM
Re: plumbata - by Susanne - 03-29-2006, 09:39 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-29-2006, 10:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Arthes - 03-30-2006, 02:07 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 03-30-2006, 06:06 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-30-2006, 06:22 AM
Re: plumbata - by Barbara - 03-30-2006, 11:53 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-30-2006, 05:26 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 03-31-2006, 02:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 03-31-2006, 05:51 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-31-2006, 08:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 03-31-2006, 10:14 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-01-2006, 06:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by Theodosius the Great - 04-01-2006, 11:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 04-01-2006, 11:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-01-2006, 11:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 04-02-2006, 12:00 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-11-2006, 06:26 AM
Looking for an article - by Robert Vermaat - 05-30-2006, 01:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by Dan Howard - 05-31-2006, 12:20 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 05-31-2006, 06:17 AM
Re: plumbata - by hansvl - 05-31-2006, 06:41 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-31-2006, 07:51 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-31-2006, 07:52 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 05-31-2006, 03:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-31-2006, 05:25 PM
Re: plumbata - by hansvl - 05-31-2006, 05:48 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-01-2006, 06:26 AM
Re: plumbata - by hansvl - 06-01-2006, 06:34 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-01-2006, 06:49 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-08-2006, 04:28 PM
Re: plumbata - by hansvl - 06-08-2006, 04:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-08-2006, 05:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 06-11-2006, 01:09 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2006, 10:08 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 06-12-2006, 10:25 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2006, 01:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 06-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by hansvl - 06-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 06-12-2006, 06:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2006, 07:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Plumbatae - by ambrosius - 06-18-2006, 12:55 PM
Re: Plumbatae - by Robert Vermaat - 06-18-2006, 04:57 PM
Re: Plumbatae - by ambrosius - 06-25-2006, 01:24 PM
Re: Plumbatae - by Robert Vermaat - 06-26-2006, 06:25 AM
Re: plumbata - by Theodosius the Great - 08-01-2006, 11:40 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-02-2006, 09:18 AM
Re: plumbata - by Theodosius the Great - 08-02-2006, 09:57 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-02-2006, 02:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by Theodosius the Great - 08-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-03-2006, 06:07 AM
Re: plumbata - by Theodosius the Great - 08-03-2006, 07:22 AM
Re: plumbata - by FAVENTIANVS - 08-04-2006, 12:07 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-10-2007, 01:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by Hibernicus - 01-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-11-2007, 04:13 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by Virilis - 01-11-2007, 08:10 PM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 01-11-2007, 08:14 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-11-2007, 08:15 PM
Re: plumbata - by Virilis - 01-11-2007, 08:17 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-11-2007, 08:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by Virilis - 01-11-2007, 08:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 01-11-2007, 09:14 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-11-2007, 11:21 PM
Roman Darts? - by SamKimpton - 01-28-2007, 03:52 AM
Re: plumbata - by SamKimpton - 01-28-2007, 04:05 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-28-2007, 11:10 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-15-2007, 08:21 AM
Re: plumbata - by Virilis - 03-15-2007, 08:45 AM
Re: Roman Darts? - by Marcus Julius - 03-17-2007, 10:01 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-17-2007, 11:06 AM
Re: plumbata - by Tarbicus - 03-20-2007, 07:09 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-20-2007, 07:21 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-20-2007, 08:15 AM
Re: plumbata - by GaiusAquiliusBritannicus - 03-21-2007, 06:14 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-21-2007, 08:23 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-19-2007, 06:16 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-20-2007, 08:40 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-28-2007, 03:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 04-29-2007, 09:25 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-29-2007, 11:19 AM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 04-30-2007, 07:52 AM
Re: plumbata - by drsrob - 04-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-30-2007, 11:37 AM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 05-06-2007, 02:00 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Paulus Claudius Damianus - 06-01-2007, 10:53 PM
plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 06-02-2007, 08:49 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-02-2007, 04:41 PM
plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 06-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Re: plumbata - by garrelt - 06-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by Marcus Mummius - 06-03-2007, 04:40 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-03-2007, 05:38 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-03-2007, 05:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 06-04-2007, 04:18 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 06-08-2007, 07:29 AM
Re: plumbata - by Marcus Julius - 06-09-2007, 04:53 AM
Re: plumbata - by garrelt - 06-09-2007, 07:19 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2007, 07:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2007, 08:01 PM
plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 06-10-2007, 04:32 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-10-2007, 03:13 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 06-10-2007, 03:21 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-11-2007, 06:08 AM
Re: plumbata - by Et tu brute - 06-11-2007, 08:11 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 06-11-2007, 12:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 06-21-2007, 10:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 06-22-2007, 05:40 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-22-2007, 11:23 AM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 06-26-2007, 12:20 AM
Re: plumbata - by ambrosius - 06-26-2007, 12:56 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-26-2007, 07:16 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 06-26-2007, 04:23 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Roy - 08-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-25-2007, 12:08 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-25-2007, 05:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-25-2007, 08:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-30-2007, 09:13 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-30-2007, 09:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-30-2007, 09:52 PM
plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 08-31-2007, 12:06 AM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-31-2007, 01:03 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 08-31-2007, 06:44 AM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-31-2007, 11:22 AM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 08-31-2007, 12:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-31-2007, 12:13 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-31-2007, 05:21 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-31-2007, 05:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-31-2007, 05:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-31-2007, 05:57 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-31-2007, 06:21 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 08-31-2007, 07:52 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-28-2007, 08:09 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-28-2007, 08:13 PM
Plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 10-28-2007, 10:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 10-29-2007, 09:43 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-29-2007, 12:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 10-29-2007, 07:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-30-2007, 06:15 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-30-2007, 07:39 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-30-2007, 07:44 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-30-2007, 06:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-31-2007, 06:37 AM
Re: plumbata - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 10-31-2007, 07:59 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-31-2007, 12:38 PM
Re: plumbata - by LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS - 10-31-2007, 03:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by Peroni - 10-31-2007, 03:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-31-2007, 06:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-09-2007, 05:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 11-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-09-2007, 05:52 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-09-2007, 06:28 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-14-2007, 04:26 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-14-2007, 04:33 PM
Plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 11-14-2007, 08:33 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-14-2007, 10:43 PM
Plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 11-14-2007, 11:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-15-2007, 12:15 AM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-15-2007, 09:09 PM
Re: plumbata - by JVL - 11-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-19-2007, 03:09 PM
Re: plumbata - by JVL - 11-19-2007, 03:34 PM
Re: plumbata - by Peroni - 11-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-20-2007, 04:33 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-23-2008, 08:39 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-04-2008, 12:46 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 04-04-2008, 07:42 AM
Re: plumbata - by Chilperic - 04-04-2008, 12:55 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 04-04-2008, 02:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Chilperic - 04-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 04-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 04-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Salvianus - 04-05-2008, 12:21 AM
Plumbatae in GB - by Davidus77 - 04-05-2008, 06:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 04-06-2008, 10:07 AM
Re: Plumbatae in GB - by Robert Vermaat - 04-06-2008, 02:01 PM
Plumbatae - by Davidus77 - 04-06-2008, 08:58 PM
Re: Plumbatae - by Robert Vermaat - 04-06-2008, 09:42 PM
Re: plumbata - by Salvianus - 04-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-06-2008, 10:11 PM
Re: plumbata - by Chilperic - 04-08-2008, 08:06 PM
Re: plumbata - by Salvianus - 04-08-2008, 09:27 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-12-2008, 01:02 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by gaiusseptimiuslucianus - 04-14-2008, 03:11 AM
Re: plumbata - by thecrocman (anton) - 04-14-2008, 04:55 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-18-2008, 03:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 04-18-2008, 07:37 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-20-2008, 05:40 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-20-2008, 05:43 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 04-20-2008, 06:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 04-21-2008, 02:53 PM
Re: plumbata - by martijn.wijnhoven - 04-21-2008, 07:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-21-2008, 08:02 PM
Re: plumbata - by martijn.wijnhoven - 04-21-2008, 08:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-22-2008, 06:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by martijn.wijnhoven - 04-22-2008, 06:21 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-22-2008, 07:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by martijn.wijnhoven - 04-29-2008, 10:47 AM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 04-29-2008, 11:30 AM
Re: plumbata - by aitor iriarte - 04-29-2008, 11:35 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-04-2008, 07:28 PM
Plumbata origins? - by Paullus Scipio - 05-06-2008, 07:17 AM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 05-06-2008, 04:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by Iagoba - 05-07-2008, 06:41 AM
Re: plumbata - by Arahne - 07-02-2008, 10:21 AM
Re: plumbata - by Bran ap Maclou - 07-02-2008, 11:53 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-02-2008, 08:06 PM
Re: plumbata - by Bran ap Maclou - 07-02-2008, 08:21 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-02-2008, 11:45 PM
Re: plumbata - by Arahne - 07-03-2008, 08:42 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-19-2009, 12:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-19-2009, 12:15 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-31-2009, 03:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 01-31-2009, 05:53 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-01-2009, 04:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Re: plumbata - by Caballo - 02-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Re: plumbata - by Caballo - 03-07-2009, 06:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 03-08-2009, 01:20 AM
Re: plumbata - by Caballo - 03-08-2009, 08:36 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-09-2009, 07:51 AM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 03-09-2009, 12:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-11-2009, 09:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-12-2009, 07:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-12-2009, 08:26 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-13-2009, 05:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Caballo - 03-13-2009, 05:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Caballo - 03-14-2009, 08:16 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-14-2009, 03:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-14-2009, 04:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-14-2009, 05:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 03-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-14-2009, 05:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-14-2009, 05:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-14-2009, 06:45 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 03-14-2009, 07:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-03-2009, 10:30 PM
Re: plumbata - by Crispvs - 04-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Re: plumbata - by Crispvs - 04-06-2009, 04:12 PM
Breakage of Plumbatae - by Theodosius the Great - 10-14-2009, 09:19 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-15-2009, 10:57 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-15-2009, 10:37 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-15-2009, 11:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-16-2009, 07:48 PM
Re: plumbata - by fasta - 10-16-2009, 07:52 PM
Re: plumbata - by John Conyard - 10-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Re: plumbata - by fasta - 10-16-2009, 08:12 PM
Re: plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 10-17-2009, 09:41 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-19-2009, 10:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 10-19-2009, 11:02 PM
Re: plumbata - by Paullus Scipio - 10-20-2009, 12:05 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 10-20-2009, 05:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-22-2009, 11:26 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 10-22-2009, 11:58 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-02-2010, 10:27 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 05-02-2010, 04:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-03-2010, 08:20 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 05-03-2010, 08:50 AM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 05-23-2010, 08:15 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 05-24-2010, 07:58 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 05-25-2010, 02:27 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 05-25-2010, 07:05 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-27-2010, 12:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Ron Andrea - 07-28-2010, 11:36 AM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 07-29-2010, 07:44 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert - 07-29-2010, 08:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 07-29-2010, 11:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-29-2010, 11:52 PM
Re: plumbata - by Astiryu1 - 07-29-2010, 11:56 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 07-30-2010, 07:23 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jvrjenivs - 07-30-2010, 08:27 AM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 07-30-2010, 09:38 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jvrjenivs - 07-30-2010, 09:39 AM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 07-30-2010, 09:48 AM
Re: plumbata - by ioannes sebald - 07-30-2010, 01:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-30-2010, 03:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 07-30-2010, 05:58 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 07-30-2010, 07:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-30-2010, 07:23 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 07-30-2010, 08:14 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 07-31-2010, 05:49 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-01-2010, 09:17 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-01-2010, 12:48 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-02-2010, 08:27 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-19-2010, 08:15 PM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-19-2010, 08:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by Ron Andrea - 08-19-2010, 09:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Mithras - 08-19-2010, 10:42 PM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 08-20-2010, 04:14 AM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-23-2010, 07:28 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-25-2010, 06:53 AM
Re: plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 08-25-2010, 09:37 AM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-25-2010, 04:42 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-25-2010, 05:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-25-2010, 06:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-25-2010, 07:23 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-26-2010, 09:33 AM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-26-2010, 06:32 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-26-2010, 06:48 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-01-2011, 07:50 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-11-2011, 01:23 PM
Re: thanks, - by M. Demetrius - 04-11-2011, 03:54 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-24-2011, 04:18 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-31-2011, 08:04 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-01-2011, 02:55 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-01-2011, 04:23 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Re: plumbata - by Matt Collettivs Ave - 06-02-2011, 07:17 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-17-2011, 12:46 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 06-17-2011, 02:20 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-27-2011, 09:13 PM
Re: Plumbata - by MDF - 09-27-2011, 09:39 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 09-27-2011, 09:56 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Vindex - 09-28-2011, 02:45 AM
Re: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 09-29-2011, 02:22 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Virilis - 09-29-2011, 09:25 AM
Re: Plumbata - by MDF - 09-29-2011, 06:35 PM
Re: Plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 09-30-2011, 07:49 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 10-04-2011, 02:36 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Longovicium - 12-29-2011, 02:15 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-29-2011, 02:42 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Longovicium - 12-30-2011, 12:35 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2012, 06:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 02-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2012, 07:45 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-06-2012, 08:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-06-2012, 08:31 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-06-2012, 08:40 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-06-2012, 09:09 PM
Re: plumbata - by Vindex - 02-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 12:23 AM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-16-2012, 01:57 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 02:12 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jay - 02-16-2012, 02:21 AM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-16-2012, 02:25 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 02:40 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 02:45 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jay - 02-16-2012, 03:00 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jay - 02-16-2012, 03:13 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 04:10 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jay - 02-16-2012, 04:15 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 06:34 AM
Re: plumbata - by Jay - 02-16-2012, 09:14 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 01:22 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-16-2012, 02:17 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 02:19 PM
Re: plumbata - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Re: Plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 02-16-2012, 06:24 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 08:10 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-16-2012, 08:12 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Jay - 02-17-2012, 03:52 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-17-2012, 06:33 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Jay - 02-17-2012, 07:51 AM
Re: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-17-2012, 01:52 PM
Re: Plumbata - by Jay - 02-17-2012, 08:38 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-17-2012, 08:47 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-28-2012, 04:31 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-23-2012, 08:59 PM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-14-2013, 09:01 PM
Plumbata - by Virilis - 03-14-2013, 09:12 PM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-14-2013, 10:19 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 03-14-2013, 11:19 PM
Plumbata - by Gesith - 03-14-2013, 11:25 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 03-14-2013, 11:30 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 03-15-2013, 03:08 AM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 03-15-2013, 03:10 AM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 03-15-2013, 03:02 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-15-2013, 05:08 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-15-2013, 05:13 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-15-2013, 05:18 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 03-15-2013, 07:16 PM
Plumbata - by Gesith - 03-15-2013, 10:53 PM
Plumbata - by Tim - 03-15-2013, 11:14 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 03-15-2013, 11:30 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-18-2013, 04:47 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-18-2013, 04:52 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2013, 12:32 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 06-12-2013, 07:03 PM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 06-12-2013, 07:09 PM
Plumbata - by Semisalis Abruna - 06-13-2013, 08:54 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-13-2013, 11:02 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-13-2013, 11:07 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-14-2013, 10:21 AM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 06-14-2013, 11:57 AM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 06-15-2013, 09:02 AM
Re: plumbata - by M. Demetrius - 06-15-2013, 03:53 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-17-2013, 07:45 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-17-2013, 07:52 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-06-2014, 01:46 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 05-06-2014, 07:15 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-13-2014, 02:01 PM
Plumbata - by Pavel AMELIANVS - 05-13-2014, 02:09 PM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 05-13-2014, 02:12 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-13-2014, 02:24 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 05-13-2014, 04:08 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-13-2014, 05:29 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 05-13-2014, 09:56 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-14-2014, 09:29 AM
Re: plumbata - by Miroslav Vujovic - 06-10-2014, 12:29 PM
Re: plumbata - by Virilis - 06-10-2014, 01:33 PM
Plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 06-10-2014, 01:57 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 06-10-2014, 02:24 PM
Plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 06-10-2014, 03:08 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2014, 10:45 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-12-2014, 10:51 AM
Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-19-2014, 10:53 AM
Re: plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 10-12-2014, 06:05 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-09-2014, 02:00 PM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 12-09-2014, 11:45 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 12-10-2014, 08:05 AM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 08:41 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 08:50 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 08:50 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 08:55 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 08:57 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 09:00 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 09:03 PM
Plumbata - by John Melfordicus - 02-11-2015, 09:06 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-08-2015, 06:10 PM
Plumbata - by Tim NC - 06-08-2015, 09:55 PM
Plumbata - by Markus Montanvs - 06-09-2015, 03:22 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-09-2015, 06:18 AM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-24-2015, 12:12 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 06-24-2015, 01:28 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-25-2015, 06:30 AM
Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 06-26-2015, 08:56 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-28-2015, 09:49 AM
Plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 06-28-2015, 12:09 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-28-2015, 12:37 PM
Plumbata - by Flavivs Aetivs - 06-28-2015, 12:41 PM
Plumbata - by Markus Montanvs - 06-29-2015, 02:43 AM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 07-12-2015, 08:01 AM
Plumbata - by Robert - 07-12-2015, 08:58 AM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 07-12-2015, 06:00 PM
Plumbata - by Renatus - 07-23-2015, 03:34 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 07-24-2015, 12:31 PM
Plumbata - by Vindex - 07-26-2015, 11:48 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-18-2016, 01:35 PM
Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 08-03-2015, 09:59 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 01-14-2016, 02:04 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 06-08-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-23-2016, 07:47 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-11-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 05-22-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-24-2016, 11:43 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 11-25-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 11-27-2016, 11:05 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-09-2016, 09:39 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-14-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Nathan Ross - 12-14-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-14-2016, 09:00 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 12-15-2016, 06:57 AM
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RE: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 05-30-2018, 09:23 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-17-2018, 01:58 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-19-2018, 10:38 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 12-19-2018, 06:55 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Renatus - 12-19-2018, 12:12 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 12-19-2018, 01:34 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Renatus - 12-19-2018, 02:22 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by Mark Hygate - 12-24-2018, 02:56 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 12-29-2018, 12:18 AM
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RE: Plumbata - by Renatus - 12-29-2018, 03:51 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 12-29-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 01-02-2019, 02:12 PM
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RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 01-06-2019, 07:40 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Renatus - 01-06-2019, 09:20 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Brucicus - 01-07-2019, 01:18 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Renatus - 01-07-2019, 07:44 AM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 02-04-2019, 12:55 PM
RE: Plumbata - by brennivs - tony drake - 02-08-2019, 08:51 PM
RE: Plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 04-11-2019, 11:56 AM
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Re: plumbata - by ValentinianVictrix - 03-24-2014, 10:03 AM
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Re: plumbata - by Renatus - 03-24-2014, 02:33 PM
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Re: plumbata - by Robert Vermaat - 03-27-2014, 03:18 PM
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