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Plumbata
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What are the measurements of the bottom picture?
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
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Will do! Piece is about 18 cm, so that one turned out too long, I'm afraid. Plumbata are a pain!
Salvete et Valete



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Robert P. Wimmers
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That looks great, Robert. You might be able to make a tool called in English, "holdfast", which takes the place of a helper to hold the stock while you use your hands for the cutter and hammer.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~wollowsk/bl ... -fast.html
There's lots of types, like the one I once sent you a picture of once upon a time...the foot-powered one.
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

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Thanks! I do have one of those, but need to cut a V notch or something into it, as these plumbata have no wider the 0.5 cm stems and are really shifty little buggers. And an afternoon of forging should be good for Robert.
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Robert P. Wimmers
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Quote:And an afternoon of forging should be good for Robert.
8)
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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Quote:but need to cut a V notch or something into it
Just heat the business end of it, and fold it over a piece of square stock. It should work for round rod pretty well that way, if you keep the size right.... Idea
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

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Ah, yes, sorry there, I indeed was thinking of giving it a "hot treatment" when I mentioned "cut". Thanks!
Salvete et Valete



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Robert P. Wimmers
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Can't recall whether this image was shown before, but the excellent website of the Munich State Library has a digital document containing not just the Notitia Dignitatum (different colours than the usual one used from the Bodleien Library), but also the pages of De Rebus Bellicis, which shows the only image of a plumbata:

http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db ... .174.98.30

Different colors here, too, and an imperfect text, but nice to show I think.
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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Nice! 8)
"Fugit irreparabile tempus" (Irrecoverable time glides away) Virgil

Ron Andrea
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During our artillary display at Binchester, while throwing the Plumbata the lightest one did this Big Grin At first it looked like it had hit a stone and jumped up a foot or so until we went to retreve;
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As you can see it went straight through this piece of branch :lol: :lol:
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This did not even split the wood it punched straight through Big Grin
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This one I found in the workshop and had just quickly fletched it up as one broke during the weekend display Sad
Just needed to share Big Grin
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I forgive you the fletching! Great show, these things do pack a lot of whallop, for sure! Thanks for sharing Big Grin
Salvete et Valete



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Robert P. Wimmers
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Something like that could hurt a guy!
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

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Quote:Just needed to share Big Grin
Thanks for that!

Question:
what does this one weigh?

Question 2:
why so few space between weight and fleetching?
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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brennivs (tony drake):39xymsky Wrote:Just needed to share Big Grin
Thanks for that!

Question:
what does this one weigh?

Question 2:
why so few space between weight and fleetching?

Weapon/armor specifications are always something I am looking for. Sad
Does anyone have even a basic list of anything?
Craig Bellofatto

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brennivs (tony drake):2gawr4ee Wrote:Just needed to share Big Grin
Thanks for that!

Question:
what does this one weigh?

Question 2:
why so few space between weight and fleetching?


May I add another question?

How was it thrown? I am assuming over arm, but assumptions being the mother etc...

Very interested to see the "punch" and that the wood hasn't split at all. It would certainly bring tears to the eyes...
Moi Watson

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