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Roman military wave
#1
Hello,
I thought that the ''typical'' Roman wave used by fascists was an old-fashioned theory, but I have read that on Plutarch:


''Him Caesar addressed by name and said: "Caius Crassinius, what are our hopes, and how does our confidence stand?" Then Crassinius, stretching forth his right hand, said with a loud voice: "We shall win a glorious victory, O Caesar, and thou shalt praise me to‑day, whether I am alive or dead." [Caesar's life 44. 10]

There is any explanation?

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#2
Run a search. The "Roman salute" has been debated to death, without conclusive result. That quote may refer to a gesture used for an oath-taking rather than a military salute.
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#3
Maybe he was stretching forth his right hand in a gesture of affinity.....?
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#4
Quote:Hello,
I thought that the ''typical'' Roman wave used by fascists was an old-fashioned theory, but I have read that on Plutarch:


''Him Caesar addressed by name and said: "Caius Crassinius, what are our hopes, and how does our confidence stand?" Then Crassinius, stretching forth his right hand, said with a loud voice: "We shall win a glorious victory, O Caesar, and thou shalt praise me to‑day, whether I am alive or dead." [Caesar's life 44. 10]

There is any explanation?

Sounds like the typical 'Ad locutio' pose:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... gustus.jpg
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/numisw ... =Adlocutio
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#5
Thank's for your answers.
The ''ad locutio'' pose is used when you speak to a group of people, but I think that in this text Crassinius is speaking only to Caesar.
Mateo González Vázquez

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#6
I don't think "ad locutio" was used towards somebody superior. The gesture here in question could also be a pure histrionic one. :?
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#7
Well that depends on how you interpret the gesture itself, and we actually see the gesture on Trajan's Column used by the common soldiery at Trajan. Even if not 'ad locutio' it's still a common gesture seen throughout history,.

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