Exorcism

[Carlton Bach]

Sorry for going OT, but once I hit one "ghost " with my pillow :lol: . Sadly it wasn´t signed, nor I am a "Samurai of proven courage", at least not a Samurai. But it worked. :roll:

Most supernatural manifestations tend to respond to faith. If you believe it works, it does. Hence security blankets.

[Iagoba]

That´s why my "abuction" phase of sleep (rigid, unable to move, an alien presence nearby...) featured Discworld´s Death playing chess instead of "greys"? :lol:

I remember thinking while it was happening "Mmmm. Quite interesting, I must write this...but I cannot reach the pencil or even move" :roll:

My strangest dream ever hock:

[Servio Caro (Javier Sánc]

2 years ago their was an Exorcism up in the north of Ireland involving a priest (he was killed performing it) hock:

The priest was killed while doing the exorcism??? hock: Have you got more info about it? How it was?

[Libitina]

2 years ago their was an Exorcism up in the north of Ireland involving a priest (he was killed performing it) hock:

The priest was killed while doing the exorcism??? hock: Have you got more info about it? How it was?

I couldn't find the Ireland one but found these two:-

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/?c=irel ... kfmhidaucw

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3877421.stm

So sad

[caiusbeerquitius]

I think it is sad that three hundred years after the beginning of the Enlightenment people still believe (in) such nonsense.

[i]“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. I’m not sure about the universe.â€

[Tarbicus]

Superstitious nonsense.

That´s why my "abuction" phase of sleep (rigid, unable to move, an alien presence nearby...) featured Discworld´s Death playing chess instead of "greys"? :lol:

Yup, sleep paralysis - explains a lot of things that go bump in the night (I get it too).

[Memmia]

I suffer from sleep paralysis quite often, although it seems to be getting less as I get older.
I hate it when you can't move and it takes all the strength in your body to move one finger in order to wake you up.
Best of all is when you are paralysed, then levitate, feeling the air rush past your face, then can even touch the cold ceiling behind you, then you gently float to the floor and feel the carpet beneath your feet. It's only when you realise you are wearing pyjamas you had when you were 10 years old that it isn't real. You then hit the bed with a large 'thump' yet the bedclothes are undisturbed.
This sounds trippy and is bizarre but is completely normal and usually hereditary.
Some of the 'hallucinations' experienced involving all senses whilst stuck in this semi conscious limbo give a good insight into just how powerful the mind really is.

[Theodosius the Great]

Here's some background information on early forms of exorcisms "In ethnic religions" (from the Catholic Encyclopedia, direct link) :

The use of protective means against the real, or supposed, molestations of evil spirits naturally follows from the belief in their existence, and is, and has been always, a feature of ethnic religions, savage and civilized. In this connection only two of the religions of antiquity, the Egyptian and Babylonian, call for notice; but it is no easy task, even in the case of these two, to isolate what bears strictly on our subject, from the mass of mere magic in which it is embedded. The Egyptians ascribed certain diseases and various other evils to demons, and believed in the efficacy of magical charms and incantations for banishing or dispelling them. The dead more particularly needed to be well fortified with magic in order to be able to accomplish in safely their perilous journey to the underworld (see Budge, Egyptian Magic, London, 1899). But of exorcism, in the strict sense, there is hardly any trace in the Egyptian records.

In the famous case where a demon was expelled from the daughter of the Prince of Bekhten, human ministry was unavailing, and the god Khonsu himself had to be sent the whole way from Thebes for the purpose. The demon gracefully retired when confronted with the god, and was allowed by the latter to be treated at a grand banquet before departing "to his own place" (op. cit. p. 206 sq.).

Babylonian magic was largely bound up with medicine, certain diseases being attributed to some kind of demoniacal possession, and exorcism being considered easiest, if not the only, way of curing them (Sayce, Hibbert Lect. 1887, 310). For this purpose certain formulæ of adjuration were employed, in which some god or goddess, or some group of deities, was invoked to conjure away the evil one and repair the mischief he had caused. The following example (from Sayce, op. cit., 441 seq.) may be quoted: "The (possessing) demon which seizes a man, the demon (ekimmu) which seizes a man; The (seizing) demon which works mischief, the evil demon, Conjure, O spirit of heaven; conjure, O spirit of earth." For further examples see King, Babylonian Magic and Sorcery (London, 1896).

There is more information on Jewish practices and exorcisms as described in the New Testament in the link above. There's far more information on the history there than on Wikipedia, and it's well referenced.

~Theo

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

The forces of evil are waging their greatest battles during this era....

woe thee who does not see the signs in the skies....

Afghanistan, Iraq, The Olympic Games, Bush, Obama, Darth Vader, MTV TMF, Porn, Future weapons....

oops...... too much of the Dutch green stuff......

sorry....



M.VIB.M.

well here are some real live siruations......

no exorcism needed.....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4u696R5GQEQ&NR=1