Herculaneum soldier

[Anonymous]

some observations re the items at the exhibition<br>
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the dagger/gladius - first image- it didnt look like a broken off gladius - it looked as if that was its full length. at the top of the handle is a diamond piece - unfortunately I didnt note what type of metal<br>
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the gladius- second image- was displayed the other way up - the belt plate under the scabbard.<br>
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the gladius with 'frame'- third image- the frame did not appear to be fixed to the scabbard- my impression was that it was a belt. although quite how it was constructed I have no idea! If you look carefully at the pic youll see that the 'frame' is somewhat narrower than the scabbard<br>
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these were by no means the only military fiitings on display<br>
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there were parts from two other scabbards, some belt plates and buckles - dagger frog and a clump of 5 apron terminals<br>
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there wee two gladiator daggers<br>
and one gladiator helmet- which had a motif of captives, etc<br>
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I'll try and translate the captions with the photos-------<br>
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[John M McDermott]

More confusion anyone? Several years back in Houston, Texas, I attended a Pompeii Exhibit (on loan) at the Museum of Fine Arts. Part of the exhibit was a Roman identified as a soldier encased in clear resin of some kind. Visible were weapons and belt parts. At the time, I was not a Roman re-enactor, so I did not notice any details. The encasement in clear resin for the sake of preservation was interesting though. <p></p><i></i>

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

Typical how italians go about their invaluable antiquities!

I truly wish the European community would take lead in forcing the Italians to do more about preserving their history...

what i have seen in Italian musea defied logic and was deeply hurting my Roman heart.

M.VIB.M.

[richsc]

The belts and scabbards were/are in the traveling Pompeii exhibit which I chanst to see in Chicago. I think this has traveled to Japan for now, coming back to Houston Texas. I posted a few photos that I managed to sneak.

Pompeii Exhibit/Chicago

[caiusbeerquitius]

Anyone still having Luca´s pics? The link is dead.

[jvrjenivs]

Anyone still having Luca´s pics? The link is dead.

Think I found them. Correct me if these are the wrong ones.
[url:3nhuvev4]http://www.romanhideout.com/chimage_img.php?image=IT/Herculaneum/Gladius1.jpg[/url]

[url:3nhuvev4]http://www.romanhideout.com/chimage_img.php?image=IT/Herculaneum/Pugio1.jpg[/url]

[url:3nhuvev4]http://www.romanhideout.com/chimage_img.php?image=IT/Herculaneum/scabbard.jpg[/url]

And as deeplinking isn't allowed, you've to refresh the page to see them...

[caiusbeerquitius]

Thanks Jurjen!

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

What's the object that covers the sheat? Seems thar are made of circular plates, hanging vertically if we see the sense of the figures embossed. Those plates seems hinged between them, and framed by two copper alloy threads (fox-tailed chains?). Enigmatic. Could be one kind of ornamentation independet of the belt?

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

Something like this:



A sort of belt strap terminal?

[jvrjenivs]

You're welcome, Christian. Thanks for putting them on your photobucket, so they're easier to see.

To me, it lookst like this 'covering' is independent of the scabbart, which seems to have embossing flower motivs like a commen mainz type scabbart.

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

Yes, i think so too. The pugio (?) is in fact a very little Mainz with embosed sheat. Prototipic, except by his sizing.

[Tarbicus]

More info and excellent photos here: http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=7112

Also, I'm wondering if this was the stele that Mike Bishop was pointing to inan earlier post (link no longer works)
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,94/

[Luca]

The images are back.
Thank you to advising me, it was an error due to a web server version change.

If you find other missed links, please send an email to me (get the email address on the "contact us") on the web site.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Thanks Jurjen!

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If it isn't a belt, could it be a wide baldric? I am guessing that is the item people are discussing as a possible apron terminal? :?

[mcbishop]

Also, I'm wondering if this was the stele that Mike Bishop was pointing to inan earlier post (link no longer works)
http://www.romanarmy.com/cms/component/ ... Itemid,94/

More like this, Jim.

Mike Bishop