Roman drawings and pictures

[Caballo]

Hi - came across this while doing research on Dorchester- some good stuff, especially of the Roman buildings.

http://www.archaeoart.co.uk/roman_menu.htm

Emailed him- nice guy as well.


Cheers

Caballo

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

His legionary appears to have his seg on backwards.

[P. Clodius Secundus]

I like the carroballista picture. It's one of the few in-swinger images ever published.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

It is a pretty good picture that one.

[jvrjenivs]

Very interesting images. Thanks for posting!

[Iagoba]

He´s good, quite good.

I love this one:

[url:1amokgs3]http://www.archaeoart.co.uk/characters/roman_charioteer.htm[/url]

Those young girls amazed with the famous charioter´s tales :roll:

Those are the drawings I like, bringing back alive the people from the past.

[Crispvs]

"It's one of the few in-swinger images ever published."

And thus, in the absence of of any reliable evidence, a fantasy piece, despite modern demonstrations of such an object's possible ability to work.

I do like the pictures though.

Crispvs

[FAVENTIANVS]

Great paintings, specially the Anglo-saxon period ones.

A legionary of the mid 1st century AD. This picture shows the soldier as he actually was: the armour is of iron- it is dark, and greased to keep out rust (it would not have been brightly polished steel- unlike that of modern re-enactors)

The artist states that here:

http://www.archaeoart.co.uk/characters/ ... ionary.htm

What do you people think about it?

[P. Clodius Secundus]

And thus, in the absence of of any reliable evidence, a fantasy piece, despite modern demonstrations of such an object's possible ability to work.

Crispvs

Are you talking about the artwork, the bronze washers some folks use to make iron field-frames work as outswingers, the supposed missing dedication to the Emperor on the Cremona battleplate, or the buffer frames on Payne-Gallwey and Schramm onagers? :wink:
Happy New Year!

[FAVENTIANVS]

And great mediaeval church interiors!!!

[Graham Sumner]

I thought I had seen some of these drawings and paintings before, they are in Neil Faulkner's book 'Apocalypse' on the Jewish revolt.

Quote:
A legionary of the mid 1st century AD. This picture shows the soldier as he actually was: the armour is of iron- it is dark, and greased to keep out rust (it would not have been brightly polished steel- unlike that of modern re-enactors)


The artist states that here:

http://www.archaeoart.co.uk/characters/ ... ionary.htm

What do you people think about it?

Always risky to state about any reconstruction that this is how it actually was. I am sure that we can all debate about many points of detail in the reconstruction.


Graham.

[Crispvs]

"Are you talking about the artwork, the bronze washers some folks use to make iron field-frames work as outswingers, the supposed missing dedication to the Emperor on the Cremona battleplate, or the buffer frames on Payne-Gallwey and Schramm onagers?
Happy New Year!"

I'm not sure what you are getting at here but what I was meaning was that if you take away the evidence of the Hatra catapult, which, as it is missing its stansions, can be interpreted in a number of ways and Trajan's column, which is completely unreliable as evidence of anything solid, you are left with zero evidence for the existence of 'inswingers', despite the fact the some people in recent years have demonstrated that such an idea is potentially workable.

Happy New Year to you too, by the way.

Crispvs

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Great paintings, specially the Anglo-saxon period ones.

A legionary of the mid 1st century AD. This picture shows the soldier as he actually was: the armour is of iron- it is dark, and greased to keep out rust (it would not have been brightly polished steel- unlike that of modern re-enactors)

The artist states that here:

http://www.archaeoart.co.uk/characters/ ... ionary.htm

What do you people think about it?

Seems clearer now for some reason :?
When I first opened the link, it looked as though the three backplates were showing on the front....guess I have my glasses on today! :roll:

[P. Clodius Secundus]

Crispvs\\n[quote]"I'm not sure what you are getting at here but what I was meaning was that if you take away the evidence of the Hatra catapult, which, as it is missing its stansions, can be interpreted in a number of ways and Trajan's column, which is completely unreliable as evidence of anything solid, you are left with zero evidence for the existence of 'inswingers', despite the fact the some people in recent years have demonstrated that such an idea is potentially workable.
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If you ignore Hatra with its inconveniently placed cut outs and rear stanchion caps... If you dismiss everything on Trajan's as artistic license... If you're willing to write-off Ammianus as a fool because you can't follow what he says... Anyone else notice a trend here? :wink: Why don't we just throw out what little artillery evidence we have and do whatever we want? That's apparently the method Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey used to reconstruct the onager. He was so slavishly devoted to accuracy that his first published design didn't even have a sling, but it did include such well documented features as wheels, cast-iron spur gears, and a huge vertical buffer frame. With such a sterling example of reasoning and method to follow, it's no wonder modern scholars feel comfortable calling Ammianus "ridiculous". For my part, I'm more comfortable assuming that what few sources we have knew what they were building, describing, or carving. Any confusion is more likely due to errors or a lack of critical thinking on our part. Better to try and find the missing link, like the fact that Roman yoke poles were bent, not straight, (see my "Taming the Onager" thread) and plug that into the formula instead. Try it, you might find some interesting things.
Regards,

[AuxArcher]

Cripvs, why in the world is the Hatra frame so very loooooooooooooooooong anyway? I would have to say that that frame is in fact some pretty decent evidence, along with the cutouts on the outer stanchions, that Hatra was in fact an inswinger. A shame Marsden wasn't alive when they found that frame.

Maybe if Wilkens and company decides to investigate inswingers, you'll be good to go? Catapult research doesnt begin and end with ESG as well, after all. I can only hope he does a better job than he did with that giant ballista that was aired on BBC.