02-25-2009, 02:21 PM
Cole...
Thorakes te neo lino
That's 'Brastplates of new linen" and when I make this point to Paul, he insists that it is "out of period."
I'm not convinced either way. Alcaeus was born (probably) in the 40th Olympiad, around 620BC and was involved with attempts to overthrow Pittacus in the 42nd Olympiad, around 608. He may have served in the "Eclipse Battle" of 585. He died old--as late as 560 or so.
Further, although I've heard it asserted that there's no Tube and Yoke at this date, I'd offer by way of example that they become common in art by 525, and allowing for Greek artistic conservatism (just look at the time it takes them to adjust to changes in women's fashion!) it is perfectly possible that Alcaeus is talking about linen tube and yoke armours.
Sadly, and I rush to say this before Paul comes in, it is merely another piece of evidence, in no way conclusive, and somewhat lonely... he could be referring to linen covers on breastplates, or something of which we know nothing. Or, of course, to linen T+Y.
Note, however, that he does NOT use the word "linothorax."
Tee hee. grenade thrown.
Thorakes te neo lino
That's 'Brastplates of new linen" and when I make this point to Paul, he insists that it is "out of period."
I'm not convinced either way. Alcaeus was born (probably) in the 40th Olympiad, around 620BC and was involved with attempts to overthrow Pittacus in the 42nd Olympiad, around 608. He may have served in the "Eclipse Battle" of 585. He died old--as late as 560 or so.
Further, although I've heard it asserted that there's no Tube and Yoke at this date, I'd offer by way of example that they become common in art by 525, and allowing for Greek artistic conservatism (just look at the time it takes them to adjust to changes in women's fashion!) it is perfectly possible that Alcaeus is talking about linen tube and yoke armours.
Sadly, and I rush to say this before Paul comes in, it is merely another piece of evidence, in no way conclusive, and somewhat lonely... he could be referring to linen covers on breastplates, or something of which we know nothing. Or, of course, to linen T+Y.
Note, however, that he does NOT use the word "linothorax."
Tee hee. grenade thrown.
Qui plus fait, miex vault.
