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Crispvs · 01-31-2005, 10:29 PM

Neuralmancer, 
 
I wish I knew how to post a sound file but as I still have difficulty getting my head around the business of uploading images (despite having been told how to many times) the idea of uploading sound as well may take a while (I have problems getting sound OUT of this computer, let alone trying to put it in). 
However, if you send your address to my ezbox I can copy a casette tape for you and send it through the post. I could also have a word with my considerably more computer literate signifer and see if any sound files could be created from recordings we made last year while marching. 
 
Vale 
 
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Caius Fabius · 01-31-2005, 10:53 PM

I heard a singer at a renfaire who had put several Rudyard Kipling poems to music, and one was Roman themed, "Road to Rimini". While it is not period, it might be fun for singing at the campfire. "Just before class started, I looked in the big book where all the world's history is written, and it said...." Neil J. Hackett, PhD ancient history, professor OSU,

02-02-2005, 01:11 AM

Ave, all, and thank you to Chariovalda for posting this link! Actually, the "Mars Respite" is exactly what we don't want, i.e., someone simply taking "I wanna be an Airborne Ranger" and changing a few (very few, in this case) words around. This being said, I found the music, as well as the idea of Roman instruments on a modern album, fascinating! Several of the tracks actually make me wanna scrape together a scratch band and some improvised instruments and try it myself at an event. I'll probably buy the CD just to listen to Latin lyrics... I did enjoy the "Mars" track as well, as it replicated what would presumably be the sounds of a century on the march, complete with powerful visual images that the music invokes (this is an aspect entirely missing from modern reconstructions). 
 
Thank you again for something new and exciting! 
 
Gaius Darius

02-02-2005, 01:55 AM

Not quite what I had in mind, but it's fantastic!

02-02-2005, 06:13 PM

That Kipling song (poem actually) can be found at : 
 
whitewolf.newcastle.edu.a...imini.html 
 
Maybe some brave soul could translate it to Latin for us? 
 
Also : www-2.cs.cmu.edu/People/r...-WALL.html from Kipling's Puck of Pook's Hill. I hadn't heard of this till now. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=cstewrt>cstewrt</A> at: 2/2/05 7:29 pm

derek forrest · 02-02-2005, 06:47 PM

That Kipling poem takes me back years to a small boy first encounter with Puck and to the best story of the Centurion or was he a tribune desperately holding the wall. Kipling could tell a yarn and write verse that brings tears to your eyes .I still cannot get through the whole of "The last of the Light Brigade " without a tear in my eye.

Chariovalda · 02-03-2005, 07:59 PM

Well, I didn't mention "ho-hum" for nothing. 
 
But I will also order the Omnia CD, together with some of the medieval music CD's Emmuty sells. 
 
As for marching or drinking songs, I know they are medieval, but at least they're in Latin. 
A song Robert and I were considering is "tempus est jocundum". It's just a cheerful song about spring love, but I can really imagine Roman soldiers singing it while they march across the fields of Germania Inferior / Secunda during spring, while the flowers bloom and the trees still drip rain from the last shower... 
 
www.schelmish.de/english/all.htm 
 
(I like the singing "rythm", forget about the accompanying medieval music, enjoyable though it is). 
 
Another candidate might be the drinking song "bache bene venies" from the Carmina Burana. 
 
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**Robert Vermaat** · 02-03-2005, 10:07 PM

tempus est jocundum can be heard here: www.schelmish.com/musik/mp3/track08.mp3 Valete, 
Valerius/Robert 
[url=http://www.fectio.org.uk/" target="top]fectienses seniores[/url]

02-05-2005, 01:15 AM

tempus est jocundum is nice, but it isn't much of a marching song. Got to keep on looking.

02-07-2005, 11:02 AM

Hey! The very first time I dressed up as a Roman Soldier, it was as Parnesius from Puck of Pook's Hill. It was for a book day at my school - I won my class prize! Homo Homini Lupus Every Man is a Wolf to Another Man

02-09-2005, 07:27 PM

Does anyone have the tranlation and lyrics for tempus est jocundum? Aug33

Chariovalda · 02-09-2005, 08:36 PM

Tempus est iocundum, 
o virgines, 
modo congaudete 
vos iuvenes. 
 
Oh - oh, totus floreo, 
iam amore virginali 
totus ardeo, 
novus, novus amor est, 
quo pereo. 
 
Mea me comfortat 
promissio, 
mea me deportat 
negatio. 
 
Oh - oh, totus floreo, 
iam amore virginali 
totus ardeo, 
novus, novus amor est, 
quo pereo. 
 
Tempore brumali 
vir patiens, 
animo vernali 
lasciviens. 
 
Oh - oh, totus floreo, 
iam amore virginali 
totus ardeo, 
novus, novus amor est, 
quo pereo. 
 
Mea mecum ludit 
virginitas, 
mea me detrudit 
simplicitas. 
 
Oh - oh, totus floreo, 
iam amore virginali 
totus ardeo, 
novus, novus amor est, 
quo pereo. 
 
Veni, domicella, 
cum gaudio; 
veni, veni, pulchra, 
iam pereo. 
 
Oh - oh, totus floreo, 
iam amore virginali 
totus ardeo, 
novus, novus amor est, 
quo pereo. 
 
Out you come - it's playtime 
you girls, again! 
Join them in the May-time, 
young gentlemen! 
 
Oh, oh, oh, 
merrily we go! 
now I have a darling who 
has set my heart aglow: 
novel, novel, novel is the love 
that slays me oh!.. 
 
Promises you make me 
are ecstasy, 
but when you forsake me 
they're agony! 
 
In the winter season 
we're serious: 
when the sap has risen, 
lascivious! 
 
How can I have fun if 
I'm innocent? 
How I am undone if 
I'm ignorant! 
 
Come - with joy complying 
renew my love: 
come along - I'm dying 
for you, my love! 
 
Translation by David Parlett 
 
Another translation: 
 
This is the joyful time, O maidens, 
rejoice with them, young men! 
Oh! Oh! Oh! 
I am bursting out all over! 
I am burning all over with first love! 
New, new love is what I am dying of! 
 
I am heartened by my promise, 
I am downcast by my refusal. 
Oh! Oh! Oh! etc. 
 
In the winter man is patient, 
the breath of spring makes him lust. 
Oh! Oh! Oh! etc. 
 
My virginity makes me frisky, 
my simplicity holds me back. 
Oh! Oh! Oh! etc. 
 
Come, my mistress, with joy, 
come, come, my pretty, 
I am dying! 
Oh! Oh! Oh! etc 
 
Well, the meaning should be clear, it's a lusty song of spring love. Not as explicit as some, but hey, there are children present on re-enactment events...

derek forrest · 02-21-2005, 08:38 PM

Kipling wrote his own legionary marching song 
www.poetryloverspage.com/...imini.html 
I have no idea what music he had in mind

02-22-2005, 12:30 AM

I like the "Mithras The War God" to the tune of "Frosty The Snowman" on Leg. XX's site 
 
I've been playing with a Roman-themed song, to the tune of "Silver Rainbow" by Genesis on the Genesis album, but the lyrics being "Beyond the Silver Eagle" But that's about as far as I've gotten.

02-22-2005, 01:05 PM

Having heard the whole Omnia CD it's pretty good. 'Morrigen' is a bit too neo-Celtic to be authentic, but it's pretty clear that the 'Mars Reprise' isn't meant to be taken seriously. Homo Homini Lupus Every Man is a Wolf to Another Man

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