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Draping the chiton
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(01-29-2016, 05:45 PM)etrusker86 Wrote:
(01-29-2016, 04:35 PM)Velites77 Wrote: i have decided to try a "mock" pattern with a cheap lenght of cloth, probably it is the best way to figure out the right measurements!

i'm getting a bit confused with the chiton and exomis,

my goal is to re-create a  peloponnesian war hoplite, and i believe that the terms chiton and exomis were meaning the same thing

called chiton if pinned at both shoulders and exomis if pinned at one shoulder only.... it is right?

I believe so.

Now, this is probably correct some times. However we should point out that there were many types of chitons at every given period, and also that styles changed in time. So the exomis at the Parthenon can be like a chiton pinned in one shoulder with a pin or a button. A decade later, or possibly even at the same time in another monument we see exomides with the shoulder sewn for about 20cm and the arm hole on the side. This is consistent with the style of the chiton which changed and looked more like a roman tunic, with the arm holes made like opening to the side, rather than opening along the upper hem. 
The fact that the shoulder is sewn means that the exomis could be made as an exomis per se and not a double-function garment.
It is also possible that the exomis was never an official garment and that only an old chiton would ever become an exomis if you ripped the seam on one shoulder.

Yet another possibility, which i have tried and works perfectly is that the chlamys, if you passed the arm from the neck hole and tied a belt around your waist could become an exomis. This possibility is confirmed by some exomides which seem open on one side and not sewn like a chiton. 

Khairete
Giannis

Here is in photos how a chlamys can be turned into an exomis.
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Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
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Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-15-2009, 01:39 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-31-2009, 03:25 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 10-31-2009, 03:27 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 11-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-02-2009, 08:06 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 11-02-2009, 08:28 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 11-05-2009, 06:34 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Nikic031 - 11-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-01-2009, 08:39 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-01-2009, 11:16 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 12-02-2009, 01:50 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-02-2009, 02:37 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Quintus Galerius - 12-06-2009, 08:00 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-08-2009, 09:52 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-08-2009, 10:31 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Quintus Galerius - 12-09-2009, 10:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 12-09-2009, 07:37 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 12-11-2009, 02:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-11-2009, 02:21 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Kineas - 12-11-2009, 08:32 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-02-2010, 12:13 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-02-2010, 11:12 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 11-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010, 12:48 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gregory J. Liebau - 11-03-2010, 01:11 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by John Conyard - 11-03-2010, 05:57 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by M. Demetrius - 11-03-2010, 06:52 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by dienekes480bc - 12-12-2011, 07:23 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 12-12-2011, 04:08 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-03-2012, 02:09 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-03-2012, 02:59 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-03-2012, 04:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-03-2012, 04:52 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Dithyrambus - 02-03-2012, 07:46 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Andy Malcolm - 02-03-2012, 08:53 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-05-2012, 04:32 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS - 02-09-2012, 05:56 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-09-2012, 05:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Dithyrambus - 02-09-2012, 06:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Gaius Julius Caesar - 02-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Cheyenne - 02-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 02-10-2012, 05:11 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-26-2016, 11:51 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-27-2016, 06:36 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-27-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-27-2016, 02:26 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 01-28-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-28-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-29-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-29-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 01-29-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 01-29-2016, 05:45 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-07-2016, 09:37 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-07-2016, 08:00 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-07-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-07-2016, 08:58 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 05-08-2016, 05:59 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-08-2016, 10:13 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 05-08-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-11-2016, 07:00 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-11-2016, 08:02 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-11-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-12-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-13-2016, 07:42 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 05-13-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Velites77 - 05-13-2016, 09:47 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Giannis K. Hoplite - 05-14-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Athena Areias - 05-16-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Titus Vettidius Cladus - 03-29-2019, 08:41 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 03-29-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Jack Svendsen - 03-29-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Titus Vettidius Cladus - 03-29-2019, 04:08 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 03-29-2019, 09:50 PM
RE: Draping the chiton - by Jack Svendsen - 04-10-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: Draping the chiton - by etrusker86 - 04-12-2019, 07:24 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-26-2011, 04:46 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-27-2011, 05:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-27-2011, 06:00 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-27-2011, 09:09 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Joe - 11-27-2011, 09:17 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 11-27-2011, 09:41 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-27-2011, 09:43 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-28-2011, 03:09 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Theodosius the Great - 11-28-2011, 03:17 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-28-2011, 06:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-28-2011, 08:58 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-28-2011, 09:54 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 01:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 03:57 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 04:34 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 06:06 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 06:15 AM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Clearco - 11-29-2011, 04:31 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Avile - 11-29-2011, 05:13 PM
Re: Draping the chiton - by Robert Vermaat - 11-29-2011, 06:12 PM

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