Gallo Roman wines produced at Mas de Tourelles

[richsc]

I read about this vinyard in David Meadows 'explorator'. Has anyone tried any of these recreated Roman wines?<br>
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www.tourelles.com/english/index.html <p>Richard Campbell, Legio XX<br>
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[Luca]

There are many others in Italy also that started to recreate ancient wines (i.e. www.romanhideout.com/News...011001.asp ).<br>
I will go there to taste it next month..... eh eh<br>
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Do you want a bottle to be shipped to you?<br>
<p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=richsc@romanarmytalk>RichSC</A> at: 1/20/03 3:11:46 pm<br></i>

[richsc]

That would be great! I'm always game to try new wines. Let me know what the cost is.<br>
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As an experiment, I've bottled some wine in unglazed pottery; I have yet to see any archaeologist study the effects of the lack of glazing on the wine. Certainly, the porous fired clay absorbs the liquid, but how much for the period of time of shipping and storage? I was wondering if that is why Roman wines are described as thick. I'll know by our Lupercalia party when I open the first one.<br>
One first observation; when I poured the wine in, it absorbed so quickly into the clay that you could actually see the wine sink in the neck of the bottle. After refilling it several times, I finally jammed the cork in and sealed it with wax.<br>
After 24 hours, all three clay bottles have taken on a uniform purple tint. <p>Richard Campbell, Legio XX<br>
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</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=richsc@romanarmytalk>RichSC</A> at: 1/20/03 3:17:18 pm<br></i>

[Anonymous]

Yes, please post a review of those wines! I tried to order some from a company in france that produced these new 'old' wines, but they did not sell in the states yet. I am told others do, so I will keep checking. But I would love to hear how they taste before I buy!<br>
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Britannicus <p></p><i></i>

[Luca]

As promised after months...<br>
I went and I tasted.<br>
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MULSUM: this was really a surprise. I were thinking this would be the worst, but probably is the best. Is a red wine mixed with honey that can be drinked as "aperitif". Of cource is sweet, but less than expected: excellent.<br>
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TURRICULAE: this is what I mean for "dry"! White wine best consumed with fishes, it is mixed with.... sea water! It tastes very good also this.<br>
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CARENUM: well this is for sure the one that goes away from the concept of wine to be more similar to a brandy, but with less alcohol. It comes from 9 to 4 years aged. It is an excellent wine, but the less extra-ordinary of the three. I mean too similar to the modern wines.<br>
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Average price is 8-9 euros for une bottle of 37,5 cl. Very expensive.<br>
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They can sell only in France for fiscal reasons. :-((((( <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub45.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=luca@romanarmytalk>Luca</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.romanhideout.com/legiov/Images/lucamain.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 7/8/03 12:57 am<br></i>

[RomanBuckeye]

I came across another source of ancient Roman wines. Touring Pompeii in March 2001 I came across an unexpected site. In a wall-enclosed area the world famous Campanian winery of Casa Vinicola Mastroberardino has set up an "experimental field of vine growing in the ancient world" (from a sign outside the vineyard). Reading the article our friends from "The Roman Hideout" have made available (see address below), it's clear that winery is trying to produce ancient Roman wines using the Piedirosso and Sciscinioso grapes. I know I've enjoyed Mastroberardino's Taurasi, a full-bodied wine dry red wine made with the Aglianico grape. The grape name I (found in Burton Anderson's book Vino) has a connection to the ancient Greek colonists of southern Italy but I don't know if the Aglianico grape existed at the time of the ancient Greeks or Romans.<br>
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[RomanBuckeye]

Sorry about the bad link; hopefully these will work:<br>
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www.romanhideout.com/News...011001.asp<br>
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(Above link is to the original Italian language article. I think translating it to English messed up the link.)<br>
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Here's a related article:<br>
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cooltech.iafrica.com/science/231609.htm<br>
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Valete,<br>
Gnaeus Laetonius Messala/RomanBuckeye <p></p><i></i>

[RomanBuckeye]

I should have read Luca's earlier post. Sorry for the redundant posting! <p></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

Wasn't there a thread a while back on how to make your own mulsum? It sounds really good. How would one go about doing that now? <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" Coh I<br>
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[BigRedBat]

Does anyone know if the Romans grew their vines horizontally across wires as we do today, or in a different manner? They presumably didn't have access to wire, but ropes or canes might have helped create a similar effect.

I'm curious because at least one Roman battle was fought across terrain including a vineyard, and I'd like to try to model a vineyard for my wargaming.

Thanks, Simon

[Caballo]

I'd like to try to model a vineyard for my wargaming

Haven't bought any for ages, but they kindly keep sending me emails and I just noticed Foundry have just released these as part of their Ancient civilians range. May be useful?
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collecti ... /index.asp

[BigRedBat]

It was the Foundry vines that got me thinking about this; my instincts are that they have it wrong. I can't see why they would grow them that high above the ground, and in little clumps on the top of poles, when they could grow them between waist an shoulder level.

Cheers, Simon

[Praefectusclassis]

I noticed them too. It'd be very ironic if the blister consisted of two workers and four incorrect vines! It's not like they're cheap to begin with...

[BigRedBat]

Hi Jasper,

If I can nail down what a Roman vine looked like, I will make a master and cast some up in lead. I don't think they could be any worse than the Foundry ones!

Cheers, Simon

[Iagoba]

Then the colourful late Roman mosaics will be of help:

[url:2pbczt26]http://www.tunisiaonline.com/mosaics/mosaic40b.html[/url]

There are more to see in tunisiaonline.com

Any Bachic, villa landscape or calendar (October its the better month) will surely show wine plants. :wink: