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Calling all armchair generals! Boudica's Last Stand.
Robert Vermaat wrote:

Is there any poof that shows that these forests were even there at the time?

Nathan’s answer fits for forestation but regarding de-forestation the Grimms Ditch area is thought to have been dug in a deforested area for the “line of sight” to be in a straight line for the distance of the ditch.

Nathan Ross wrote:

.......the top left corner of the picture would offer an ideal approach from the direction of Akeman Street, and would bring the Britons right into the Roman camp!


We are no doubt going to have to differ here but this is I believe easily defendable with physical defences.


John 1 wrote:

see "c" above. With the addition that the majority of the group that hit Colchester in a rage returned home with plunder before setting off on a second broader expedition drawing new recruits and family from home. This group/groups could have advanced on Roman territory on a very different timeline and along very different routes ie through the Fens via Stonea or via Ely, hence my interest in the Fens. Once in Fenland, which is looking increasingly like Iceni territory, they would have the upper hand.

I agree with John that a combined force of the Iceni and the Trinovantes took control of all the forts in their territories then destroyed Colchester.

They were now back in control of their lands, the Iceni returned home and the Trinovantes took back their farms and estates.

The Iceni then returned home with their spoil and either encountered the 9th on its way to Colchester, or the 9th were ambushed by a border force of the Iceni at Wixoe.

I favour the latter as the Brythons (having fought the Romans for 18 years) would have known that as soon as messages had reached the Roman Administration of a suspected uprising that a Roman army would be sent to protect the Colonia.

Catus had sent 200 troops (which was all he could spare) and perhaps Cerialis had no idea of the strength of the Iceni / Trinovantes army and was confident that he had enough force to deal with it.

The Brythonic skill was in ambush and it was this point that the Roman Army was at its weakest.

Even after this neither tribe could leave their territories for the fear of being outflanked by the next Roman Army.

I am not convinced that London or St Albans at this stage were as important as keeping their own land.

John 1 wrote:

it does not account for different groups acting in different ways, different squadrons of Iceni heading off fast in very different directions and torching distant places. If this is the case, the burning of London and St Albans does not reflect a map of consequential movement, as "parade-istas" assume, but a series of isolated incidents in no particular order undertaken by different groups with different approach routes and speeds.

Once the next Roman Army appeared (in this case at St Albans and then London) and was seen that it was of a limited size, that soon withdrew from London, the race was on to come to grips with this small force whilst it was on the move.

The chariots may have been sent to harass the Roman column and London was just collateral damage

The rest of the army of the Trinovantes mustered.

So the Trinovantes chariots may have gone to London, the Trinovantes infantry across to Braughing and on to St Albans

The Iceni chariots may have gone down the Icknield Way towards Dunstable to harass the retreating column (or further North along Watling Styreet if intelligence was gathered).

The rest of the Iceni army mustered and marched westwards.

If the Iceni had gone down the Icknield Way to Dunstable and SP was waiting for them there, SP’s forces would have been caught between the Trinovantes and the Iceni.
Deryk
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Re: Calling all armchair generals! - by Ensifer - 03-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 02-18-2012, 06:26 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 02-19-2012, 12:02 AM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 02-19-2012, 02:50 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 02-19-2012, 05:40 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 02-19-2012, 11:26 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-24-2012, 05:11 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-24-2012, 09:42 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-24-2012, 10:10 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-25-2012, 03:11 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-25-2012, 03:25 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-25-2012, 08:36 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-26-2012, 02:57 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 04-27-2012, 01:50 PM
Re: Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Steve Kaye - 08-05-2012, 02:24 PM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-07-2014, 02:18 PM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-08-2014, 01:50 AM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-11-2014, 02:03 AM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-18-2014, 07:54 AM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-20-2014, 02:37 AM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by antiochus - 11-25-2014, 08:29 AM
Calling all armchair generals! Boudica\'s Last Stand. - by Deryk - 03-11-2015, 04:00 PM

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