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The "Fred thread": the Argead Macedonian Army
Quote:This is to misread the text. Rezpka (along with Hammond) too asserts this is an "assembly of the Makedones"
To paraphrase; "This is to misread Paullus Scipio" :lol: :lol:
I agree that it is a discussion taking place of the Commanders and Leading figures - even though Eumenes has been appointed Commander-in-Chief in Asia by Olympias and the Regents, the other leading 'Makedones' don't take kindly to serving under a mere Greek. Nevertheless, the matter will, in the normal course of events, be referred to an "Assembly of the Makedones" ( c.f. many other examples e.g. the Assembly after the death of Perdiccas to pick a new Regent - even if the assembly was not the real power, it was necessary to observe the forms). Peukestes first tries to cajole the 'Macedonians', but having failed, demands command of the Army, because he has brought the most soldiers, similarly Antigenes argues that the decision should rest solely with his 'Argyraspides', probably for the reason given, namely that he might not win a vote in an 'Assembly of the Makedones',( which in fact does not occur) which Eumenes cunningly resolves by setting up 'The Tent of Alexander' as a sort of temple to him and having the commanders meet 'under Alexander' to make decisions .....anyway, we digress mightily from the point, which is that there were undoubtedly Macedonian troops other than the Argyraspides in Eumenes armies..... I hope there is no dispute as to this before Eumenes ends up in Nora? Afterward, I have already stated reasons for thinking the 2,000 plus foot after Nora, and the Companions/Pezhetairoi/Veterans of Alexander who share the honours of the Argyraspides at Peukestes feast (another attempt to win over the troops), and the 'Hypaspists' who take precedence over the Argyraspides are essentially the same body of troops and clearly Macedonian, and if further evidence were needed, there is Ptolemy's interference - he sends a letter addressed to "to the Silver Shields and to the other Macedonians with Eumenes..."( XVIII.62.4 and 63.1 and that these Macedonians are not merely officers is shown by 63.3 "At the reading of this letter the commanders and all the Macedonians found themselves in great perplexity..." and that these are not merely the Argyraspides is confirmed by terms such as "the crowd" and "the soldiers", referring to these men....

One point I should clarify from earlier, and that is that Eumenes had very few 'Macedonian' cavalry, most were 'local' Asiatics and it is the cavalry Cappadocians whom Eumenes promises freedom from taxes -"immunity from contributions and tributes' Plutarch "Life of Eumenes"(IV)

Shall we get back to the subject matter of this thread and discuss who exactly who were the 'dory/aspis' armed Macedonian troops? Fred has already touched on this......
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Re: The "Fred thread": the Argead Macedonian Army - by Paullus Scipio - 09-16-2010, 06:57 AM

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