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Roman Leatherwork
#1
Not sure if this is in the right spot.
I have been doing leatherwork for a while and finally starting to improve Smile . I was wondering if there were any patterns/tutorials out there for Roman Leather items such as the Loculus or Sacrina. May even be willing to give roman shoes a go.
[size=85:24zrkvo2]Andy McDonald[/size]
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#2
Hello Panda, welcome to the forum, there are some good tutorials on here is you can use the search function.

Also, can you put your real name in you're signature.

i.e Kevin etc
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
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Batavian Coh I
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#3
Thanks, I will have a look, is there any specific naming on this forum for threads such as [Tutorial] in the title?

Well I would put Kevin but the name is Andy. Smile

Already changed.
[size=85:24zrkvo2]Andy McDonald[/size]
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#4
Just noticed your location, I too im up this end of the country out in Aberdeenshire. Smile
[size=85:24zrkvo2]Andy McDonald[/size]
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#5
Well there is the How-to's section in this forum, then there is the beginners section as well.

Where abouts are you then?
We have a small group based out at Archaolink as well. Several small scale events throughout the year.

also one of the guys in the group has taken to doing leather, and has just made a localus..he's improving with each attempt.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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#6
Thanks, will have to have a look when I get home as images don't show while I am at work.

You will have a PM shortly. Smile
[size=85:24zrkvo2]Andy McDonald[/size]
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#7
My own humble Legio XX site might be helpful:

http://www.larp.com/legioxx/

It has a page devoted to leatherwork in general. Have fun!

Matthew
Matthew Amt (Quintus)
Legio XX, USA
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#8
Hi Andy,

this might be interesting for you: Pocket Guide
For shoes search for Caliga, Solea, Calceus etc. in conjunction with my name her on RAT :-) )

Hope this helps ...
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#9
I'm amazed I've made so much stuff myself, since I started from scratch. My best bit of advice is to measure everything twice before you start cutting leather ... oh, and make mock ups out of thick card or paper first, use these to create your templates. This is invaluable for complex things like shoes.
Paul Elliott

Legions in Crisis
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/17815...d_i=468294

Charting the Third Century military crisis - with a focus on the change in weapons and tactics.
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#10
Hi Martin,

Some of the links in the pocket guide don't work. I was interested to see "Notebook Bag thread".

Was there any evidence to suggest that there would have been Belt Pouches used by the Romans other than the simple circular drawstring pouch?

Cheers,
Andy

Quote:Hi Andy,

this might be interesting for you: Pocket Guide
For shoes search for Caliga, Solea, Calceus etc. in conjunction with my name her on RAT :-) )

Hope this helps ...
[size=85:24zrkvo2]Andy McDonald[/size]
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#11
A little rectangular belt pouch can be seen on the Terentius Fresco from Dure Europus c.260AD.
Paul Elliott

Legions in Crisis
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/17815...d_i=468294

Charting the Third Century military crisis - with a focus on the change in weapons and tactics.
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#12
Quote:A little rectangular belt pouch can be seen on the Terentius Fresco from Dure Europus c.260AD.

Oh, hadn't heard of that one! For the Republic and early Empire, I don't think anyone has come up with ANY depictions of belt pouches at all, nor any references. There are a couple little pouches of various sorts, but no evidence that they were hung from the belt. Just wasn't a Roman fasion at that time, apparently! Toss it inside your tunic, or hand it to a slave.

Some kinds of shoes are a LOT easier to make than a satchel! A simple pair of carbatinae are open at the top and front, and just laced up, with the only stitching being up the back, so it's pretty easy to get them to fit well enough. But yes, play with PATTERNS first.

Valete,

Matthew
Matthew Amt (Quintus)
Legio XX, USA
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.larp.com/legioxx/">http://www.larp.com/legioxx/
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#13
This is it, the soldier third from right has a rectangular belt pouch. It was commented on by Simon James in his Dura Europus: Final Report.
Paul Elliott

Legions in Crisis
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/17815...d_i=468294

Charting the Third Century military crisis - with a focus on the change in weapons and tactics.
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#14
Quote:Oh, hadn't heard of that one! For the Republic and early Empire, I don't think anyone has come up with ANY depictions of belt pouches at all, nor any references. There are a couple little pouches of various sorts, but no evidence that they were hung from the belt. Just wasn't a Roman fasion at that time, apparently! Toss it inside your tunic, or hand it to a slave.

Or tuck it into a ventralis! You could argue that the square shaped object which appears to be tucked into the waist-belt on early Rhineland sculptures is a purse of some kind. Off hand I think there is also a literary source to keeping valuables in the waist-band but I do not think the text is clear if they are just wrapped up in the fabric or kept in a separate purse tucked into the waist-band.

I illustrated one of the Dura characters in Roman Military Clothing 2 with a purse attached to the belt itself but obscured most of it because the source is vague as to the pouch and method of attachment.

Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.

"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.

"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
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#15
Well, that just plain cheating Graham! :lol:

There are earlier sculptures with what is thought to be a wax tablet in th belt. but was there not speculation it could also be a small pouch or something?
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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