Brasero?

[Virilis]

Salvete omnes!

I would like to be made a roman "brasero" by a blacksmith to our summerhouse. It would look cool ahead our sauna, someone keeping guard and drinking red wine. Here is the only picture I have:

http://www.armae.com/Photos/Chaussures_ ... SMR108.jpg

Are there any info about originals etc.? Thanks in advance!

[Epictetus]

We just start getting snow, and you're already thinking about your summer house? :wink:

Do you light a fire in that? Is it "brazier" in English? If so, they look to be quite diverse. Via Bill Thayer's website, I found two images, both supposedly from Pompeii:




Is the one on the right the brazier? It looks a bit odd to me. I think they were normally lifted off the ground via legs.

[Plauta]

The object in the upper photo is a brazier for bath heating, the kind that was used for bathhouses which had no underground heating. I suppose this one is from Pompei: there is one bathhouse there which used this sort of brazier. It held a big quantity of hot coals.
In the second photo I see two pots, not braziers.
It's not clear what Virilis wanted. The photo he links to shows a log holder, not a brazier.

[Virilis]

Thanks David!

I will check the brazer-options too. Now it is the best time to have a fire outside the sauna. The lake Päijänne is still open (no ice) and there is snow on the ground, I can put the nets in the lake and get some fish. Lake trouts are also coming very near the shore, "watchin the first snow", as the old finnish saying goes. Best time to be at our cottage :wink: ...

[Virilis]

The object in the upper photo is a brazier for bath heating, the kind that was used for bathhouses which had no underground heating. I suppose this one is from Pompei: there is one bathhouse there which used this sort of brazier. It held a big quantity of hot coals.
In the second photo I see two pots, not braziers.
It's not clear what Virilis wanted. The photo he links to shows a log holder, not a brazier.

Log holder? I think I saw this kind of "log-holder" the first time in some roman movie (and it certainly was on fire :wink: ). Was it the movie where Alec Guinness played the role of Marcus Aurelius ("The Fall of the Roman Empire)? Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGbAKGvqxc

MY GOD how much Alec Guinness looks like Marcus Aurelius hock: ...

[Epictetus]

I don't know how historically accurate it is, but that would work good burning out in front of your sauna. I often use "lumberjack lanterns" but I think your idea is better.

[Virilis]

I don't know how historically accurate it is, but that would work good burning out in front of your sauna. I often use "lumberjack lanterns" but I think your idea is better.

Yes, I have used "lumberjack lanterns" ("jätkän-kynttilä") too. Very easy to make, just a log and a chainsaw :wink: ...

[P Sertorius Scaevola]

Is this what yer lookin for? Doesn't come cheap but it makes your mouth water doesn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... TQ:US:1123

[M. Demetrius]

Doesn't say how it came OUT of Pompeii, but it's certainly a beautiful object.

[Virilis]

Is this what yer lookin for? Doesn't come cheap but it makes your mouth water doesn't it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... TQ:US:1123

Yes, googled that too, it is wonderful hock: !

[Plauta]

Ah, I see. Well, if films are the historical sources ...
The elegant tripod shown seems a brazier. Braziers are for holding coals, not for making fires on. For fires Romans had brick fireplaces.
I can only think of one representation of a tripod with fire on it. it's a sacrifice scene in a relief in the Capitoline museums. But that tripod is very plain. It's definitely a tripod, though, and it doesn't resemble the film prop.

[M. Demetrius]

it doesn't resemble the film prop.

Nothing new about that, is there? :lol: :roll:

[Peroni]

Doesn't say how it came OUT of Pompeii, but it's certainly a beautiful object.

It's a replica from the original David. Most of the items on that shop are.

[M. Demetrius]

Oh, well, that makes sense. From its title, I suspected it to be an original. Pretty piece, regardless.

I don't expect to see one like that "Pan legged one", more likely the "wastebasket" type would be in my camp. I think I could make one from 14ga metal that would withstand a small fire, particularly since it's somewhat air-cooled, it ought not to warp from the heat. I think I'd put it on a little taller legs, though, since many parks etc., here require a 12" clearance from the ground to protect the grass.

[Epictetus]

Hei Jyrki, did you ever get one of these? I was in Clas Ohlson today and they were selling small ones for € 24.95. They looked quite nice, and I see they have it on their site, too.

http://www.clasohlson.fi/Product/Product...=162198582