HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!! ...again pentalpha/pendacle

[hoplite14gr]

Does any member of R.A.T has an image of the the pottery Item showing the hoplite with the "pentalpha"/pendacle on his shield.
I need it to advice an artist please.

Kind regards

[hoplite14gr]

Any chance? :roll:

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[PMBardunias]

Here I come to save the day......! (that is the Mighty Mouse theme)

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Thats bizzare! Never seen that symbol on a Greek shield before! Interesting!
Where does it originate? As in which city state?

[hoplite14gr]

Thanks Paul
This is the first of the 2.
Is is in the Geneva Museum of Art History-

Do you by any chance have the other one where 2 hoplites stand side by side
One with star on shield and the other with an eye?
(Here is the case of giving a yard and he will ask for a mile :oops: )


No not city state.
Thought the symbol had a meaning with the Summeriams, in Greek context is a pythagorean symbol.
The perfect geometric shape where the five points stand for:
1. ???? Water
2. ???? Earth
3. ???? ? ????? Idea or Sanctum
4. ???? (????????? ??? ?????) Sun heat (Energy)
5. ??? Air

Kind regards

[hoplite14gr]

THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I nailed in finally

It was: Beasley 301590 Munich, Antikensammlungen J729

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[PMBardunias]

Assuming it is the same image, you've beaten me to it. But I saved this as (MUNICH, Museum Antiker Kleinkunst i (GERMANY 3, pls. 95 - 146). ), so perhaps yours is a different image? (or I am simply wrong)

[Dithrambus]

Very cool, I have spent countless hours researching known Greek shield devices and have never come across an image of the pentagram. What period is the pottery from?


Edit:

I found the pentagram listed in the catalogue of devices in the G.H. Chase book, he states that the image appears three times, (1) amphora on shield of Athena, (2) amphora on shield of warrior (both images posted by Paul B.), (3) coin of Pitane. He does'nt give dates for the amphora (or coin) though.

[hoplite14gr]

Paul, thanks its the same.
I only got it with the Beasley DB reference.

The star is clearly Pythagorean.
The white/on black eye is connected to a family of Elean sheers living in Croton.

The artifacts are dated in 550 to 500 B.C roughly at the time of the Battle of Krathes river
when the Crotoniates beat the Sybaritans

Kind regards

[Macedon]

Hmm... on the other hand, if we place the eye inside the pentalpha, we have the Sign of the Elder Gods!!!! Great Cthulhu, 2012 is coming!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: