Nydam and Illerup Adal photos

[Medicus matt]

I finally managed to pay visits to the Moesgaard and Schloss Gotorf museums in early December (as well as the Hedeby Viking Museum...I'm very lucky to have a partner who's interests coincide with my own..especially as I use the excuse that it's her birthday to book these long weekends of museum hopping trips every year).

Well worth a visit, both of them, even if it meant driving through blizzards and snowdrifts to get there.
Photobucket pages are here:-

http://s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp263...%20Museum/

http://s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp263...%20Museum/

[jvrjenivs]

Thanks for posting those, Matt.

I would also add a link with some other pictures and interesting information about the Illerup Adal hoard.
www.illerup.dk

[Adam Oswalt]

Matt, thanks for posting these photos. I don't think I've ever seen a photo of the Damendorf trousers before, just pattern drawings from the web. Your pics are very helpful.

Adam

[Kai]

So many pictures! Thank you very much. These places are surely on my list to visit someday

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Amazing collection, and great photos! Thanks Matt!
What period is the helmet? Second or third century?
And was it found there as well?

[jvrjenivs]

Illerup Adal finds are third century Byron. I'm not sure about the Nydam, though, but I thought them to be third century.

[noxia]

Amazing collection, and great photos! Thanks Matt!
What period is the helmet? Second or third century?
And was it found there as well?

The helmet was found in pieces in the Thorsberg bog, no iron left. The picture displays a copy, since the original pieces are not on display.
Most likely first half of the third century, i would say

[Harjaz]

I'm working on a spearhead for a 1st cen AD Germanic impression. Would it be accurate to base it on some of the spearheads found in Illerup Adal?

[jvrjenivs]

I'm working on a spearhead for a 1st cen AD Germanic impression. Would it be accurate to base it on some of the spearheads found in Illerup Adal?

Probably not, as the Illerup finds certainly are from a later period. Which part of 'Germania' would you base your expression in? Although the shape in general stays the same over a longer period, it would always be nicer to find one that fit into your period and area of interest.

[Harjaz]

I am trying to represent the Cherusci in the 1st cen. AD. I recently started a topic on 1st cen Germanic swords, and it seems weaponry changed a lot during the 1st cen. AD. However, the spearheads seem to remain the same. I was hoping to base my spearhead on the finds in Illerup Adal because of the number of spear heads as well as the condition of them. There are spearheads from earlier Germanic graves elsewhere, but I don't think they're in as good condition as the Illerup ones. Also, the Illerup Adal find is only about 200 years after my time at the most.

[jvrjenivs]

'only 200 years after my period'

Are you serious about that statement? 200 years can make a huge difference! And for spearheads, I think you can find excellent examples better for your period of interest. But as I said, a spearhead from Illerup Adal can do the job as good, but it's not as nice as a better one

[Paullus Scipio]

Jurjenus wrote:-

Illerup Adal finds are third century Byron. I'm not sure about the Nydam, though, but I thought them to be third century.

The Nydam ship burial consisted of four ships, two small, (too damaged to be reconstructed) and two large. Unusually it contained among its contents no less than 106 swords, 93 of which were 'pattern welded', 552 spear heads, and many arrow-heads. The weapons are dated 200-350 AD, and the find, like other mass finds, may well represent a large defeated raiding party, whose gear was dedicated to the "Local Gods".