02-28-2013, 09:34 PM
Alanus wrote:
The tunic is too long so I have to hike it up with an under-belt. That accounts for what looks like a roll of fat above my equipment belt.
You think so? I suspect Hellenising portraits of the Iranian nomads often tend to shorten the "barbaric" length of the tunics, because in Iranian and Central Asian art, these tunics seem to be rather longer when shown dismounted, but of the same cut. Or did you use a surviving example of a tunic from this period?
Alanus wrote:
We don't really know what exact style reached Europe through the Sarmatians but I think the diversity we see coming from Duro Europa is an indicator that lamellar was a reality.
I could not find a good collection of images, but look at the trophies taken from the Dacians, Sarmatians and their allies on the pedestal of the column of Trajan. These armours seem to be quit long, of the type that would appear from the 3rd century CE onwards as Roman equipment. One is of mail construction, with a very Oriental crèpe lining of the short sleeves. Another of scale construction with long scale (!) sleeves, which might sound odd, but such scale sleeves have been found in Scythian graves in the Kuban area, so they had been indigenous on the steppes where these nomads came from, and reappear on a similar Roman depiction of scale armour from the 4th century. One armour is especially interesting, of apparently segmented construction, both for the body and for the sleeves. Many of the details shown on the column seem to derive from hearsay, but the trophies would have beeen exhibited in Rome, so the artist could have taken a better look at them.
The tunic is too long so I have to hike it up with an under-belt. That accounts for what looks like a roll of fat above my equipment belt.
You think so? I suspect Hellenising portraits of the Iranian nomads often tend to shorten the "barbaric" length of the tunics, because in Iranian and Central Asian art, these tunics seem to be rather longer when shown dismounted, but of the same cut. Or did you use a surviving example of a tunic from this period?
Alanus wrote:
We don't really know what exact style reached Europe through the Sarmatians but I think the diversity we see coming from Duro Europa is an indicator that lamellar was a reality.
I could not find a good collection of images, but look at the trophies taken from the Dacians, Sarmatians and their allies on the pedestal of the column of Trajan. These armours seem to be quit long, of the type that would appear from the 3rd century CE onwards as Roman equipment. One is of mail construction, with a very Oriental crèpe lining of the short sleeves. Another of scale construction with long scale (!) sleeves, which might sound odd, but such scale sleeves have been found in Scythian graves in the Kuban area, so they had been indigenous on the steppes where these nomads came from, and reappear on a similar Roman depiction of scale armour from the 4th century. One armour is especially interesting, of apparently segmented construction, both for the body and for the sleeves. Many of the details shown on the column seem to derive from hearsay, but the trophies would have beeen exhibited in Rome, so the artist could have taken a better look at them.
