05-05-2014, 01:34 PM
Hi, Nadeem
No. According to Simonenko, all the finds in southern Ukraine and the Crimea were disarticulated. Every grave had been robbed in antiquity. We have the Orlat plaque but it's impossible to define overlap and stitching. Even the following illustration, from an Attic jug, shows insufficient detail... and it looks like scales only but it's yoked and flexible. :wink:
[attachment=9773]Akhilleus_Patroklos_Antikensammlung_Berlin_F2278.jpg[/attachment]
And Simonenko refers to this blurry illustration when discussing combination armor.
[attachment=9774]DSC_0020.JPG[/attachment]
The idea for plates either sewn together or to a backing appears to extend back to the "bone age." Here is a conception of bone splints found in the Altaic, also similar to Siberian finds.
[attachment=9775]sibir_30_2014-05-05.jpg[/attachment]
I have seen this material also depicted as splint greaves. Considering the present state of all these finds, it's impossible to define any of it as a "type." At least that's my understanding of it. We really don't know how old the lamellar-scale conception is, and it shows up in the Neolithic and Bronze Ages from Greece to the Asian steppe to the tiaga of Siberia. :unsure:
No. According to Simonenko, all the finds in southern Ukraine and the Crimea were disarticulated. Every grave had been robbed in antiquity. We have the Orlat plaque but it's impossible to define overlap and stitching. Even the following illustration, from an Attic jug, shows insufficient detail... and it looks like scales only but it's yoked and flexible. :wink:
[attachment=9773]Akhilleus_Patroklos_Antikensammlung_Berlin_F2278.jpg[/attachment]
And Simonenko refers to this blurry illustration when discussing combination armor.
[attachment=9774]DSC_0020.JPG[/attachment]
The idea for plates either sewn together or to a backing appears to extend back to the "bone age." Here is a conception of bone splints found in the Altaic, also similar to Siberian finds.
[attachment=9775]sibir_30_2014-05-05.jpg[/attachment]
I have seen this material also depicted as splint greaves. Considering the present state of all these finds, it's impossible to define any of it as a "type." At least that's my understanding of it. We really don't know how old the lamellar-scale conception is, and it shows up in the Neolithic and Bronze Ages from Greece to the Asian steppe to the tiaga of Siberia. :unsure:
Alan J. Campbell
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb
member of Legio III Cyrenaica and the Uncouth Barbarians
Author of:
The Demon's Door Bolt (2011)
Forging the Blade (2012)
"It's good to be king. Even when you're dead!"
Old Yuezhi/Pazyrk proverb