Equites sagittarii (late 2nd century)

[Nurglitch]

Thanks! I have been looking really hard for some pretext to buy this helmet. You may just have given me one Now I have to beg my group to allow me to wear it :}

[MVinc]

Thank you very much! Thanks for information!

[Crispvs]

Is there any reason why the cheekguard could not have been attached to a helmet similar to the Theilenhofen cavalry helmet?

Crispvs

[MVinc]

Please I would like to ask you for another advice.

I would like to compare military camps where equites sagittarii (or mixed troops) were stationed with the fort in Iža.

Above, there is Intercisa mentioned. Where can I find something more about this camp please?

If there are other camps/outposts where could equites sagittarii be stationed, can you please give me some information?

Thank you!

[jho]

On Intercisa see here:

FRE

I do not think that camps for archer units were different from those of other units but you may want to google the following short list of alae for their respective forts:

Ala Celerum
Ala I Hamiorum Syrorum
Ala I Augusta Ituraeorum
Ala Parthorum et Araborum
Ala I Sagitariorum Surorum milliaria
Ala I Thracum veteranorum
Ala III Augusta Thracum sagittariorum

You should be aware that gravestones show that "generic" cavalry units may have also included archers (e.g. the equites singulares (e.g. at Mainz), the famous Batavian who crossed the Danube before hitting an arrow with a second one, and the trooper of ala Scubulorum mentioned above).

Finally, I have not read but this thesis which is available online may also be helpful:

the horse archers of the Roman Imperial Army

[MVinc]

Great! Thank you Mr. Horstkotte. I will check it certainly.

[Peroni]

...the famous Batavian...

The epitaph of Soranus... CIL 03, 03676 (AE 1958, 0151)

Ille ego Pannoniis quondam notissimus oris
inter mille viros fortis primusq(ue) Batavos
Hadriano potui qui iudice vasta profundi
aequora Danuvii cunctis transnare sub armis
emissumq(ue) arcu dum pendet in aere telum
ac redit ex alia fixi fregique sagitta
quem neque Romanus potuit nec barbarus unquam
non iaculo miles non arcu vincere Parthus
hic situs hic memori saxo mea facta sacravi
viderit an ne aliquis post me mea facta sequ[a]tur
exemplo mihi sum primus qui talia gessi

"The man who, once very well known to the ranks in Pannonia, brave and foremost among one thousand Batavians, was able, with Hadrian as judge, to swim the wide waters of the deep Danube in full battle kit. From my bow I fired an arrow, and while it quivered still in the air and was falling back, with a second arrow I hit and broke it. No Roman or foreigner has ever managed to better this feat, no soldier with a javelin, no Parthian with a bow. Here I lie, here I have immortalised my deeds on an ever-mindful stone which will see if anyone after me will rival my deeds. I set a precedent for myself in being the first to achieve such feats”.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Sorry for being a dog with a bone, but here also, these neiderbieber neckguards are comparable to the helmet posted earlier.
If these are not cavelry, then I canot see how that can be.

http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEquip...ederbieber

[caiusbeerquitius]

Well, as I said above, I, like some others, do not really see any of these in cavalry use.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

OK, I guess I misunderstood you! But the helmet you are staing as cavelry is included in that link...
But saying that, I agree the Neidermormter is a lot different.
But then, where are the Cavelry helmets of this period if not these?

[MVinc]

OK, I guess I misunderstood you! But the helmet you are staing as cavelry is included in that link...
But saying that, I agree the Neidermormter is a lot different.
But then, where are the Cavelry helmets of this period if not these?

I guess Auxiliary cavalry A was still in use: see this
And also Auxiliary cavalry H

But this last one has a significantly large neck guard dont you think?

[jvrjenivs]

Just to add my 2 denarii to the look of Roman cavalryman about AD 180, see this artist impressions we got made lately, for my cavalry project.


Drawing by Peter Nuyten.

Officers we did with more ornate versions and some masked helmets.

[MVinc]

Officers we did with more ornate versions and some masked helmets.

But that is Niederbieber helmet, isnt it? Im really confused now!

[jvrjenivs]

Mmm, maybe I should have been reading the topic some better.

Yes, this one is a niederbieber with short neckguard. More towards the Hedderheim helmets. Most niederbiebers have a big neckplate, so I don't suggest those for cavalry use, but with a shorter neck-plate they seem to be fitting perfectly into the picture you get about 2nd century cavalryman, putting all sources together. (Facemaks helmets not taken into account).

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

I guess Auxiliary cavalry A was still in use: see this
And also Auxiliary cavalry H

But this last one has a significantly large neck guard dont you think?

Yes I agree on the lst one. I have wondered about the dating of that 'A', as it is so clearly a 1st cent design. I wonder if it was a treasured heirloom that found its way into later use.